HYDROPONICS ARE WAY UNDERPOWERED!

[Quasarrgames]

I get that hydroponics needed a bit of a buff. 25 metal to build such an advanced apparatus is a teeny bit unrealistic. That being said, i wouldn't have minded them costing 50 or 75 metal, but 150? That's way too much, especially considering how many of them you need to make in order to feed your colony.

My point: please decrease the amount of metal hydroponics tables cost to 50 or 75 please

[Fruit loops]

The point of them is to be a end game thing, you dont just start out with them

[Mikhail Reign]

Why must they be end game? They are immediately researchable, with a low research cost, and in some cases are a nessesary first research. Seems like early game stuff to me.

[Fruit loops]

well early game your not going to have to have 20+ hydroponics to feed everyone you can rely on outdoor crops, later on when you need the extra food then it might be a feasible option


that's my opinion anyways

[Igabod]

I can build you a hydroponics system that will hold 8 to 10 strawberry plants easily out of a 6 foot long piece of 6 inch pvc tubing. Or even easier, a 5 gallon rubbermaid tub will hold 6 to 8 strawberry plants. Hydroponic farming is actually the easiest thing you can do to grow lots of food in a limited space. The fact that more people aren't growing their own food hydroponically IRL is kinda amazing to me. And the fact that you can even grow food hydroponically with no electricity (as long as you add fish into the water reservoir) means it should be one of the easiest ways to farm in the game. But as it stands I only see a purpose for it if my map choice forces me into a mountain, which I prefer not to do. It is barely any faster than soil farming and it is more susceptible to power outages.

[Vas]

Hydroponics is a pot with a plant in it.  Not a super advanced grow it now box.

Also, they are not game ending, if you spawn in an area with no growing period, you're screwed unless you get hydroponics up fast.  And they are expensive energy wise.

[Mikhail Reign]

well early game your not going to have to have 20+ hydroponics to feed everyone you can rely on outdoor crops, later on when you need the extra food then it might be a feasible option


that's my opinion anyways

You only start with 3 people. It only takes 3 or so hydro set ups to feed them.

[skullywag]

I can build you a hydroponics system that will hold 8 to 10 strawberry plants easily out of a 6 foot long piece of 6 inch pvc tubing. Or even easier, a 5 gallon rubbermaid tub will hold 6 to 8 strawberry plants. Hydroponic farming is actually the easiest thing you can do to grow lots of food in a limited space. The fact that more people aren't growing their own food hydroponically IRL is kinda amazing to me. And the fact that you can even grow food hydroponically with no electricity (as long as you add fish into the water reservoir) means it should be one of the easiest ways to farm in the game. But as it stands I only see a purpose for it if my map choice forces me into a mountain, which I prefer not to do. It is barely any faster than soil farming and it is more susceptible to power outages.

Fish? I love growing my own stuff. Plz explain da fish.

[Cimanyd]

Hydroponics is a pot with a planet in it.  Not a super advanced grow it now box.

That sounds pretty advanced to me. Is it an inhabitable planet with plants on it? That would be a convenient way to grow plants in a small space.

[Cyclops]

I'd also like to address another concern. Their power requirement seems to have gone up to 70W. Not sure if it was nerfed this Alpha, but the Sun lamp already drains 700 watts, so it really shouldn't require that much to power the Hydroponics.

[Igabod]

I'd also like to address another concern. Their power requirement seems to have gone up to 70W. Not sure if it was nerfed this Alpha, but the Sun lamp already drains 700 watts, so it really shouldn't require that much to power the Hydroponics.

In real life industrial sized hydroponics labs the electricity costs are highest for lighting and temperature control. The actual hydroponics basins only use a small fish pump to introduce fresh oxygen into the solution. So I definitely agree with this point.

[keylocke]

i'm also interested in the irl hydroponics setup. do you have recommended links and further tips? maintenance, setup, etc?

[Matt NA]

Honestly i wouldnt even use them right now. They cost way to much to feed my 30+ person colony. Like the power and metal and space it takes is not worth it at all. Just make a big room with pumps and grow them traditionally.

[Vas]

Hydroponics is a pot with a plant in it.  Not a super advanced grow it now box.

That sounds pretty advanced to me. Is it an inhabitable planet with plants on it? That would be a convenient way to grow plants in a small space.

What typo where?  I don't see one.  :|

I'd also like to address another concern. Their power requirement seems to have gone up to 70W. Not sure if it was nerfed this Alpha, but the Sun lamp already drains 700 watts, so it really shouldn't require that much to power the Hydroponics.

It went up?  Before it was 40 watts and 600 watts for sun lamp.  Now I'm never going to use hydroponics.  I used to before, now I refuse to.  Hydroponics is totally useless at this point, way too much of a hindrance.
1. Plants still only grow during day light.
2. Plants still require sun lamp, even though hydroponics are supposed to have EVERYTHING a plant needs.
3. Dirt and dirt holder cost apparently 70 watts to run now.
4. Everything dies if the power goes out for a tiny period of time.
5. Not sure if this one is still relevant, but you can't mass select them all to tell them to grow the same thing.

Nope.  Not gonna use Hydroponics anymore, ever again.

[BinaryBlackhole]

In real life the cost of hydroponics is a way to slowly pump the water in a little nutrients then the light and heat sun lamp  should keep its current power requirement hydroponics should cost 10 watts, at least till fish are added