[A12d] More Mechanoids (v1.07b - updated 31.12.2015)

[Orion]

Ah, right. I'll look into it when I have the time... But don't hold your horses, I'm overloaded with work these days.

[cy-one]

Is there a simple way (like, changing a value in a file) to lower the detoriation/crash chance?
Because for me personally, it's way too high. Brand "new" crawlers don't even manage to haul one single item without at least rebooting once. If not more.

[DigitalProeliator]

Yea I have to agree that the crawlers themselves specifically don't last very long. The micromanaging every day just is not make it worth doing for them. The others can last a week to a month before needing to be repaired but if forget checking the crawlers for a few days I know to look for them in the robot graveyard I set up..

[Orion]

That is actually quite odd, since colonists fix up the worst parts if they're on repair duty.

So either you have really a lot of them, or they break entirely by chance. Hm. I guess I should make deterioration tweakable.

[cy-one]

The situation I described had..... 2 Crawlers. Colony-wide. In a colony with ~10 people.

Brand new or freshly repaired crawler, didn't matter. They maybe managed to do ONE trip, after that the crash chance was way above 50%, and even that one trip usually had one or two reboots in it.

So... yeah... please do make them tweakable

[DigitalProeliator]

That is actually quite odd, since colonists fix up the worst parts if they're on repair duty.

So either you have really a lot of them, or they break entirely by chance. Hm. I guess I should make deterioration tweakable.

I didn't really have a lot, I had two crawlers, a scyther, and a centipede I got out of a random raid. Chipped them and the scyther and centipede I had no issues. I think the time between the damage for them is just to much for when people are sleeping, or they don't have enough health. I think a tweak to either of that would fix the issue.

[Orion]

The crashes are by design. Otherwise they are way overpowered. But they shouldn't just get destroyed.

[cy-one]

I appreciate that and agree, but the frequency (at least in my game) just made them absolutely unworthy of the involved effort (aka, plasteel and such). It was actually a lot easier to just capture/recruit another raider and set him to only haul. He worked faster, way more reliable, and didn't cost anything besides a bit of rice - of which I produce enough anyway.

For me, at the moment, chipped mechanoids don't offer any... advantage, any real value. And with them being all Zzzzz-rebooty all the time (really, with 3 mechanoids, I could never find an opportunity to make a screenshot without one of them being in that state), even the "style/coolness"-factor is sadly not really a given.

[RiftandRend]

I don't know if this has already been addressed, but I wish I could use the converted Mechanoids in combat. It was their original purpose, and the converted crawlers still have their plasma cutters as a body part, so I don't see why not.

[Orion]

I appreciate that and agree, but the frequency (at least in my game) just made them absolutely unworthy of the involved effort (aka, plasteel and such).

The next version will have a little bit slower deterioration and possibly it will be tweakable, if you're into XML modding.

I don't know if this has already been addressed, but I wish I could use the converted Mechanoids in combat. It was their original purpose, and the converted crawlers still have their plasma cutters as a body part, so I don't see why not.

It's been an ongoing discussion. For now the argument is the following: it's a lot of work to implement and balance, and right now I don't even have enough time to tweak their crashes, let alone new features.

[cy-one]

I appreciate that and agree, but the frequency (at least in my game) just made them absolutely unworthy of the involved effort (aka, plasteel and such).

The next version will have a little bit slower deterioration and possibly it will be tweakable, if you're into XML modding.

As long as it's at least a little bit documented, I'll be fine

[Mechfried]

Awesome mod. I just hope the the A12 version of you mod is coming soon

[Orion]

I'm afraid you'll have to hang tight for a while. I think it'll be at the very least 4 weeks, since my agenda doesn't allow me to even get started any time soon

[johiah]

Any new news on this mod?

[akiceabear]

He mentioned at least 4 weeks on 30 August. One message above your post. PAY ATTENTION.