Tynan's true dilemma

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[Thyme]

hehe. I personally don't understand why animals can't do incest but humans do. Or was it the other way around?
Seriously, from the animal perspective, it gets harder to get a full livestock. I understand that. I don't like it. Biologically, I see no difference between animals (in general) & hoomans. It should be either wincest for all species or no incest at all. And since this is RimWorld ...

[O Negative]

RimWorld is supposed to capture the ugly side of humanity. Incest it is

[iame6162013]

RimWorld is supposed to capture the ugly side of humanity. Incest it is

+1

[mumblemumble]

hehe. I personally don't understand why animals can't do incest but humans do. Or was it the other way around?
Seriously, from the animal perspective, it gets harder to get a full livestock. I understand that. I don't like it. Biologically, I see no difference between animals (in general) & hoomans. It should be either wincest for all species or no incest at all. And since this is RimWorld ...

It used to be humans would animals wouldn't iirc, or maybe neither could...but animals not doing incest lead to genetic "dead ends" where animals would die out after everyone fucked everyone. A generation of kids would die off, as they refused to fuck brothers / sisters.

This was removed because it made raising livestock retardedly hard.

...And I agree rim-world should represent the worst of humanity. Funny, this same line is what gets me hate in that thread suggesting rape as a feature lol

[iame6162013]

Funny, this same line is what gets me hate in that thread suggesting rape as a feature lol

People hate you for a suggestion that would make the game more interesting? Isn't that the opposite of logic? Yes it would should make people feel bad about themselves, but isn't this what this game is about? A drama simulator simulating traumatic acts?

Could you link the thread in question?

[Thyme]

I think all you need is 2 males and 2 females (and lots of time for several generations) to increase your gene pool enough to get rid of incest. RimWorld does track parents and grandparents only, right? so the 3rd generation has no memory of their great grandparents and can breed with your 4 starting animals. Not sure tho, I just buy/tame more animals because it's usually quicker.

I don't think we should have rape as feature. I won't post a full explanation, but it has to do with rape still happening in our culture and all the other things like cannibalism/vivisections not happening. I hope one day we can overcome that as well.

[iame6162013]

and all the other things like cannibalism/vivisections not happening

Wait cannibalism doesn't? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_cannibalism#2010.E2.80.93present
It looks like it's still happening to me..

[Thyme]

I'm surprised, but the documentation obviously gets better over time. I still consider it a marginal phenomenon, because, according to the UN, 250.000 rapes are reported per year! This stands in no relation to the 28 entries of cannibalism over the last 6 years (including 3 cases of people eating/selling their own meat).

[iame6162013]

I must ask though, do you not want to include a feature because of this? I know that seeing this happen might bring back memories to some, but other features can also bring back memories that are IMHO worse: (shooting, breaking age guidelines for relationships, starvation, loneliness, human meat eating, fire, everything related to prisoners, etc etc).

[A Friend]

Where would you draw the line then? I'm curious.

[Listen1]

That was kinda funny 

But I honestly don't think it would contribute for the game. Not even the story part... Even though I can't say "no incest"

[Thyme]

It's the other way around, I don't want it included and those figures reassured me in my opinion. I draw the line where it is in the game.

[mumblemumble]

Yeah, cannibalism still happens, but its not talked about... ..remember the dipshit who took bath salts and then ate his "friends" face?

One thing which would be interesting to know, but has hardly any information on it, is how far out generations need to be with incest to prevent adverse effects. I mean, bare with me...if a town is started with say, 20 people, its not going to be many generations before its impossible for family roots to bump into each other.

Because of this, I think with enough distance genetically, the adverse effects of incest in extended family could be avoided. But, there's no information / studies on this sadly. Would be interesting to see a graph on risk by how far separated out it was, but I also can't see a study being done on incest of first gen, second gen, third, forth...ect...and compare the results.

If anyone knows of such a study, let me know.

[Thyme]

The House Lannister Habsburg suffered from incest. Look at their paintings, they don't look like that because of the painter. They did that for quite a while and are, well, known for that. Interesting how the word incest does not appear on both the english and german wiki article. Tu felix austria!