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Title: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: halida on November 30, 2013, 05:24:22 AM
I found the dead body and the stones have HP, so I let one of my soldier use frag grenade to shoot the area.
After 4 or 5 shoot, the dead body will die again.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: nnescio on November 30, 2013, 05:49:13 AM
Quote from: halida on November 30, 2013, 05:24:22 AM
I found the dead body and the stones have HP, so I let one of my soldier use frag grenade to shoot the area.
After 4 or 5 shoot, the dead body will die again.

Fire works better on bodies. As for rubble/debris, well, they are a pain the rear end to clear (due to requiring multiple explosions) but they work very well as substitutes for sandbags, as they don't need any maintenance.

Rubble/debris only offer a maximum of 40% cover though, vs 60% for sandbags. This does make rubble/debris ideal for slowing down raiders.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: ShadowDragon8685 on November 30, 2013, 06:59:13 AM
Halida, there's an easy trick to corpse disposal.

Combine your killing field and your graveyard. Not only will those who die in the right spot atop the grave fall right in and fill it automatically, but if you're using a line of explosives with graves to both sides, firing off the explosives will empty the graves. It's like a self-cleaning oven. For corpses.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: KeoLegend on November 30, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
Quote from: halida on November 30, 2013, 05:24:22 AM
I found the dead body and the stones have HP, so I let one of my soldier use frag grenade to shoot the area.
After 4 or 5 shoot, the dead body will die again.

i found an easier way!
Make ure base with only one door, so the enemy will prioritize it! Than put 4 charges that can blow the same spot (one tile above the door). When all off them group to destroy ure door activate the charges. If you use 4 in a row they'll be auto-DESTROYED and will VANISH from the map, along with weapons and debris. Using this strategy u can pretty much never be bothered by raiders again
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: ShadowDragon8685 on November 30, 2013, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: KeoLegend on November 30, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
Quote from: halida on November 30, 2013, 05:24:22 AM
I found the dead body and the stones have HP, so I let one of my soldier use frag grenade to shoot the area.
After 4 or 5 shoot, the dead body will die again.

i found an easier way!
Make ure base with only one door, so the enemy will prioritize it! Than put 4 charges that can blow the same spot (one tile above the door). When all off them group to destroy ure door activate the charges. If you use 4 in a row they'll be auto-DESTROYED and will VANISH from the map, along with weapons and debris. Using this strategy u can pretty much never be bothered by raiders again

And then you never get to collect their weapons. Why again would you do that?
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: DeltaV on November 30, 2013, 08:57:44 PM
Quote from: ShadowDragon8685 on November 30, 2013, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: KeoLegend on November 30, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
Quote from: halida on November 30, 2013, 05:24:22 AM
I found the dead body and the stones have HP, so I let one of my soldier use frag grenade to shoot the area.
After 4 or 5 shoot, the dead body will die again.

i found an easier way!
Make ure base with only one door, so the enemy will prioritize it! Than put 4 charges that can blow the same spot (one tile above the door). When all off them group to destroy ure door activate the charges. If you use 4 in a row they'll be auto-DESTROYED and will VANISH from the map, along with weapons and debris. Using this strategy u can pretty much never be bothered by raiders again

And then you never get to collect their weapons. Why again would you do that?

Maybe detonate two to kill the raiders, collect weapons, and then detonate the other two to destroy the bodies?
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: ShadowDragon8685 on November 30, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
Quote from: DeltaV on November 30, 2013, 08:57:44 PM
Quote from: ShadowDragon8685 on November 30, 2013, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: KeoLegend on November 30, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
Quote from: halida on November 30, 2013, 05:24:22 AM
I found the dead body and the stones have HP, so I let one of my soldier use frag grenade to shoot the area.
After 4 or 5 shoot, the dead body will die again.

i found an easier way!
Make ure base with only one door, so the enemy will prioritize it! Than put 4 charges that can blow the same spot (one tile above the door). When all off them group to destroy ure door activate the charges. If you use 4 in a row they'll be auto-DESTROYED and will VANISH from the map, along with weapons and debris. Using this strategy u can pretty much never be bothered by raiders again

And then you never get to collect their weapons. Why again would you do that?

Maybe detonate two to kill the raiders, collect weapons, and then detonate the other two to destroy the bodies?

You'd have to rebuild the bombs twice, because explosives in their own explosive radius blow each other up.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: halida on December 01, 2013, 05:28:27 AM
Quote from: ShadowDragon8685 on November 30, 2013, 06:59:13 AM
Halida, there's an easy trick to corpse disposal.

Combine your killing field and your graveyard. Not only will those who die in the right spot atop the grave fall right in and fill it automatically, but if you're using a line of explosives with graves to both sides, firing off the explosives will empty the graves. It's like a self-cleaning oven. For corpses.

WoW, that is an easy way. I will use this design.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: theranged on December 01, 2013, 11:30:13 AM
Quote
Maybe detonate two to kill the raiders, collect weapons, and then detonate the other two to destroy the bodies?

Close,  I just had a lot of 'success' with using 3. I would collect the weapons and then put bodies in gillets.  That being said, there's a huge weakness...  if you have large groups of raiders, they might reach the door at different times and some will break through the door before you detonate.  I just lost a 70 day camp because of that :)
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: ShadowDragon8685 on December 01, 2013, 11:41:19 AM
Quote from: theranged on December 01, 2013, 11:30:13 AM
Quote
Maybe detonate two to kill the raiders, collect weapons, and then detonate the other two to destroy the bodies?

Close,  I just had a lot of 'success' with using 3. I would collect the weapons and then put bodies in gillets.  That being said, there's a huge weakness...  if you have large groups of raiders, they might reach the door at different times and some will break through the door before you detonate.  I just lost a 70 day camp because of that :)

Use an airlock system with more than one door. So they break through one door into a chamber precisely sized for the blast radius with another door in it.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: theranged on December 01, 2013, 11:53:09 AM
Great idea, thanks.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: Ric on December 03, 2013, 05:16:59 AM
Quote from: halida on December 01, 2013, 05:28:27 AM
Quote from: ShadowDragon8685 on November 30, 2013, 06:59:13 AM
Halida, there's an easy trick to corpse disposal.

Combine your killing field and your graveyard. Not only will those who die in the right spot atop the grave fall right in and fill it automatically, but if you're using a line of explosives with graves to both sides, firing off the explosives will empty the graves. It's like a self-cleaning oven. For corpses.

WoW, that is an easy way. I will use this design.

Beware. While using this method is effective it can get really annoying having them die all over the grave areas as you then can't box select to allow your colonists access to them. It always just selects the graves :\

Very annoying when you have 80 raiders to clean up & can only double click things..lol..
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: nnescio on December 03, 2013, 05:40:28 AM
Quote from: Ric on December 03, 2013, 05:16:59 AM
Quote from: halida on December 01, 2013, 05:28:27 AM
Quote from: ShadowDragon8685 on November 30, 2013, 06:59:13 AM
Halida, there's an easy trick to corpse disposal.

Combine your killing field and your graveyard. Not only will those who die in the right spot atop the grave fall right in and fill it automatically, but if you're using a line of explosives with graves to both sides, firing off the explosives will empty the graves. It's like a self-cleaning oven. For corpses.

WoW, that is an easy way. I will use this design.

Beware. While using this method is effective it can get really annoying having them die all over the grave areas as you then can't box select to allow your colonists access to them. It always just selects the graves :\

Very annoying when you have 80 raiders to clean up & can only double click things..lol..

Sell one of the graves. Now you can double-click on a corpse to select all of them on screen (up to a limit). Rebuild the grave afterwards.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: Ric on December 03, 2013, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: nnescio on December 03, 2013, 05:40:28 AM
Quote from: Ric on December 03, 2013, 05:16:59 AM
Beware. While using this method is effective it can get really annoying having them die all over the grave areas as you then can't box select to allow your colonists access to them. It always just selects the graves :\

Very annoying when you have 80 raiders to clean up & can only double click things..lol..

Sell one of the graves. Now you can double-click on a corpse to select all of them on screen (up to a limit). Rebuild the grave afterwards.

Its the guns aswell unfortunately. Not a bad idea though, thx.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: ShadowDragon8685 on December 03, 2013, 02:17:53 PM
Quote from: Ric on December 03, 2013, 05:16:59 AMBeware. While using this method is effective it can get really annoying having them die all over the grave areas as you then can't box select to allow your colonists access to them. It always just selects the graves :\

Very annoying when you have 80 raiders to clean up & can only double click things..lol..

In my experience, at least one of them dies on an otherwise unremarkable tile and you can just double-click on it to group-select all the corpses around him. Shovel the corpses in first, then double-click on individually fallen weapons to group-unforbid weapons of that type.
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: why1do on December 03, 2013, 05:51:32 PM
Quote from: ShadowDragon8685 on December 03, 2013, 02:17:53 PM
Quote from: Ric on December 03, 2013, 05:16:59 AMBeware. While using this method is effective it can get really annoying having them die all over the grave areas as you then can't box select to allow your colonists access to them. It always just selects the graves :\

Very annoying when you have 80 raiders to clean up & can only double click things..lol..

In my experience, at least one of them dies on an otherwise unremarkable tile and you can just double-click on it to group-select all the corpses around him. Shovel the corpses in first, then double-click on individually fallen weapons to group-unforbid weapons of that type.

Area selecting works... mostly
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: The_XaFFaX on December 11, 2013, 12:17:34 PM
Another idea for bodies is to use cages, in general managing colonists through fear is good.

As in the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnJ17pLbMFU

Thanks,
XaFFaX
Title: Re: You don't need to build so many grave or dumping area
Post by: daft73 on December 11, 2013, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: The_XaFFaX on December 11, 2013, 12:17:34 PM
Another idea for bodies is to use cages, in general managing colonists through fear is good....

Thanks,
XaFFaX

You should just post your youtube channel here http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44.0;attach=654 , instead of plastering it everywhere  ;)