Atheism mod
removes "praying" activity
nothing more
thanks
god bless
hey are you the guy the ingame warg description refers to?
Quote from: skullywag on September 17, 2015, 10:03:55 AM
hey are you the guy the ingame warg description refers to?
wargs a smarter, then colonists
they dont pray
They could be praying to the void gods which could get added to the game at any point. Its one of the concepts Tynan has on his list of things to possibly add.
Quote from: skullywag on September 17, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
They could be praying to the void gods which could get added to the game at any point. Its one of the concepts Tynan has on his list of things to possibly add.
but now there is no in-game gods
gods first
then praying
no gods - no praying
besides,
gods do nothing - no praying
if you just dont want - no praying
Praise unto Cthulhu, may he smite the unbelievers
ok, i just do it by myself
try it, if u want, and tell me, how it works
it must remove the "praying" & "visiting grave" activities
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I think the visiting grave activity should stay as it is respecting the dead and not necessarily praying to a god.
And if we're on the subject of activities, there needs to be a 'debate' activity between atheist and theist pawns.
I think that pawns can be atheists already. For example some pawns are praying other not - it's pretty much like in real life.
I really doubt it that in future atheists will be 100% of the population. There always will be something we don't know about to make another religion/god etc.
In general people created God because they don't know about so many things - evolution, gravity, planets, stars, universe itself etc. We must remember that our imagination of God is imagination of God from the first years of our era when people though Earth is the centre of universe etc. In real life Earth is only a small pale blue dot and humans are even smaller.
That we're a lot smarter than other animals doesn't mean anything - after all universe is big so who knows if other race don't helped us or evolution is so amazing that can create both intelligent race and creature like dog, cat etc in that same time?
TLDR
I think people will believe in God/Gods almost forever. Why? Because we believe in God even now, when that God was created in world with knowledge that is really, really basic for us.
And btw i'm ateist. I use simple logic - there is higher chance of other race creating our whole solar system than God creating Adam and Eve and Earth as a best planet ever etc.
Btw 2 - There is a lot of text in Bible itself that can say both about God or other race. There are even some paintings with something flying in the sky (may be fake, though, just saying) Just a fun fact :)
Btw 3 - it's just my thoughts, i don't say that people believing in God are stupid or something. Though, we have no proofs God exist, but it's believing after all - people believe that something like God exist without any proof for that.
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 09:43:48 AM
Atheism mod
removes "praying" activity
nothing more
thanks
Pretty simple to do on your own.
Rimworld/Mods/Core/Defs/JobDefs/Jobs_Joy.xml
Change <defName>Pray</defName> and <reportString>Praying.</reportString> to something like "Think" and Thinking" or "Plan" and "Planning"
Rimworld/Mods/Core/Defs/JoyGiverDefs/JoyGivers.xml
Change <defName>Pray</defName> and <jobDef>Pray</jobDef> to the same name as the previous <defName>Pray</defName>
For example:
Rimworld/Mods/Core/Defs/JobDefs/Jobs_Joy.xml
<defName>ThinkingOfDay</defName>
<reportString>Thinking about earlier today.</reportString>
Rimworld/Mods/Core/Defs/JoyGiverDefs/JoyGivers.xml
<defName>ThinkingOfDay</defName>
<jobDef>ThinkingOfDay</jobDef>
Quote from: Alistaire on September 17, 2015, 10:01:09 AM
god bless
Really mature. I'm sure Yahweh/Allah/Vishnu/etc. would be quite pleased with your bigotry.
Quote from: Adamiks on September 17, 2015, 02:21:20 PM
In general people created God because they don't know about so many things - evolution, gravity, planets, stars, universe itself etc. We must remember that our imagination of God is imagination of God from the first years of our era when people though Earth is the centre of universe etc.
Some people still believe the Earth is flat (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/)
Yeah, i know about this site. "your senses are telling you Earth is flat". Yeah, especially when i see a mast of ship first before the ship itself - Best Logic 101.
Sometimes i think about humans and i don't see what part of us is created by God but i'm sure it's not the brain :S
Quote from: Adamiks on September 17, 2015, 02:45:42 PM
Yeah, i know about this site. "your senses are telling you Earth is flat". Yeah, especially when i see a mast of ship first before the ship itself - Best Logic 101.
Sometimes i think about humans and i don't see what part of us is created by God but i'm sure it's not the brain :S
it's a beautiful lie sold to the homeless, sick and weak of mind, at it's base the illusion of deities serves nothing more than to give the common folk just that, something in common, it was originally a way to put nice dry tinder at the sparks of society, these days....
people enjoy being lied to. :/
my views are agnostic, i don't believe, but if god came to earth and said "hey (name) it's god" and then proved it i'd be the most devout person you've ever seen from then on.
The point is that God isn't person. It can't be. People say "he" not "it" like it's a person, but how any kind of person can exist without time and space? The answer is - it can't. If God exist it's really different that people thinks.
And the funny part is that people use hilarious arguments to prove that God exist and it's a human-like-thinking creature. Yesterday some guy on YT said that 4 major books are saying God exist so it's exist. Even if these books was created by other humans - "God exist because humans said so" - Logic 101.
I don't hate anyone believing, but c'mon people, when you believe in something you *believe*. Believing isn't based in saying that things in you believe are facts. Believing is based in knowing that there is no real proof to makes things in you believe science fact. For example i can believe that i will be My Little Pony after i will die, but that doesn't make it fact - even if i would create tons of books saying "i will be my little pony after i will die" but in sneaky way - using some stories that doesn't have much sense at all.
TLDR
If you believe in God then believe in it and don't try to make it a fact that it exist. Bible doesn't proof God exist - becaues it's book created by human not God. You can say that these humans were blessed by a God but there is a higher chance they were just crazy. In fact people most likely would believe in what really old book is saying about God rather in what Simple Smith would say about his new religion in really modern day. To be honest i would rather like to believe in religion that was created in very modern days than in religion that was created so many years ago.
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 09:43:48 AM
Atheism mod
removes "praying" activity
nothing more
thanks
But why would you want to stop colonists from praying to our lord and savior Tynan?
Heh, it's pretty interesting. Maybe God/Gods are just creators of our matrix that we live in? ;d
Quote from: cuproPanda on September 17, 2015, 02:25:59 PM
Pretty simple to do on your own.
thanx 2 u, panda, i'm already delete praying from joydefs, but i forget about joygiverdefs
now its complete
Quote from: cuproPanda on September 17, 2015, 02:25:59 PM
Some people still believe the Earth is flat (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/)
HEY... dats some serous stuffz their... I'll give them an A+ for the effort... Its kinda like when I proved that all numbers are equal when I got a math question wrong on a test...
Anyway: just like all numbers are not equal, i believe the earth is not flat.
Edit: I actually I grabed it off the internetz, but atleast I stated the source!!!
Edit: Be happy to give you a link!
Why you changed Gentlmen? ;{
One day you was a real Gentlmen, now you're a trololo soldier!
i remove strings from Jobs_Joy and JoyGivers
they praying anyway
what i did wrong?
did i need to start a new game? or it must work with saved games?
can someone look at my mod?
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Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 07:41:47 PM
i remove strings from Jobs_Joy and JoyGivers
they praying anyway
what i did wrong?
did i need to start a new game? or it must work with saved games?
can someone look at my mod?
The problem is you made a mod. I was talking about editing the core files, since you're removing a feature found in the base game. Below is a screenshot from a test I did. Replacing the words like I said earlier makes the colonist think instead of pray(apparently they're thinking about something pretty gross). Replace think/thinking with whatever you want.
I also added pics of exactly what I wrote(notice the file path at the top), if it helps. I'm pretty sure Tynan wouldn't like it if I distributed core files, so that'll have to do.
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Quote from: cuproPanda on September 17, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
The problem is you made a mod. I was talking about editing the core files, since you're removing a feature found in the base game.
thank u panda
but, tell me please, can it be done by making mod, not by editing core files?
Quote from: Adamiks on September 17, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
Why you changed Gentlmen? ;{
One day you was a real Gentlmen, now you're a trololo soldier!
I felt like changing, got a problem? :)
But you just noticed now... I thought everyone would've noticed by now...
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: cuproPanda on September 17, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
The problem is you made a mod. I was talking about editing the core files, since you're removing a feature found in the base game.
thank u panda
but, tell me please, can it be done by making mod, not by editing core files?
I'm sure it is, but I don't exactly know how. I've never tried removing things, only adding.
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: cuproPanda on September 17, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
The problem is you made a mod. I was talking about editing the core files, since you're removing a feature found in the base game.
thank u panda
but, tell me please, can it be done by making mod, not by editing core files?
Non Modder opinion:
Well, you could keep an unedited copy of the core files somewhere there just in case something goes wrong.
(http://i.imgur.com/siZSv90.png)
Quote from: KENERIC KABOOM KERSON Khat Klays Ksp (TheGentlmen) (GENT) on September 17, 2015, 08:47:21 PM
Quote from: Adamiks on September 17, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
Why you changed Gentlmen? ;{
One day you was a real Gentlmen, now you're a trololo soldier!
I felt like changing, got a problem? :)
But you just noticed now... I thought everyone would've noticed by now...
Oh, and it was Ithyflea's who gave me the title, he said so him/herself in a PM and offered to remove it, I declined.
Also changed my name... AGAIN.
And I'm not and a trololo soldier, I'm an 'Ambaster of fun'
Quote from: KENERIC KABOOM KERSON Khat Klays Ksp (TheGentlmen) (GENT) on September 18, 2015, 09:41:13 PM
Quote from: KENERIC KABOOM KERSON Khat Klays Ksp (TheGentlmen) (GENT) on September 17, 2015, 08:47:21 PM
Quote from: Adamiks on September 17, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
Why you changed Gentlmen? ;{
One day you was a real Gentlmen, now you're a trololo soldier!
I felt like changing, got a problem? :)
But you just noticed now... I thought everyone would've noticed by now...
Oh, and it was Ithyflea's who gave me the title, he said so him/herself in a PM and offered to remove it, I declined.
Also changed my name... AGAIN.
And I'm not and a trololo soldier, I'm an 'Ambaster of fun'
As a mod dev, it might be a good idea to settle on a name you like and keep it. I imagine it'd get confusing for people to see [current name]'s Small Mods and Patches; they might think it's a different person and skip it.
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 08:45:19 PM
but, tell me please, can it be done by making mod, not by editing core files?
Unfortunately you cannot simply remove things from the core mod by creating a new mod that doesn't have that thing in it. Unless you replace or edit the Core mod, you have to override the item you wish to remove.
I've whipped up a mod (attached to this post) that should effectively remove the praying activity. All it does is set the chance of colonists deciding to do the praying activity to 0.
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Quote from: cuproPanda on September 18, 2015, 10:01:12 PM
Quote from: KENERIC KABOOM KERSON Khat Klays Ksp (TheGentlmen) (GENT) on September 18, 2015, 09:41:13 PM
Quote from: KENERIC KABOOM KERSON Khat Klays Ksp (TheGentlmen) (GENT) on September 17, 2015, 08:47:21 PM
Quote from: Adamiks on September 17, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
Why you changed Gentlmen? ;{
One day you was a real Gentlmen, now you're a trololo soldier!
I felt like changing, got a problem? :)
But you just noticed now... I thought everyone would've noticed by now...
Oh, and it was Ithyflea's who gave me the title, he said so him/herself in a PM and offered to remove it, I declined.
Also changed my name... AGAIN.
And I'm not and a trololo soldier, I'm an 'Ambaster of fun'
As a mod dev, it might be a good idea to settle on a name you like and keep it. I imagine it'd get confusing for people to see [current name]'s Small Mods and Patches; they might think it's a different person and skip it.
Good point...
lol
I kind of want the opposite, a mod that adds a game mode where you have to sacrifice one of your colonists every year to appease the evil star god TY-NAN, with terrible consequences if you don't.
Quote from: SpaceDrunk on September 19, 2015, 10:09:54 PM
I kind of want the opposite, a mod that adds a game mode where you have to sacrifice one of your colonists every year to appease the evil star god TY-NAN, with terrible consequences if you don't.
Tyn'an demands muffalo blood or the crop blights continue!
Quote from: ItchyFlea on September 19, 2015, 12:57:28 AM
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 08:45:19 PM
but, tell me please, can it be done by making mod, not by editing core files?
Unfortunately you cannot simply remove things from the core mod by creating a new mod that doesn't have that thing in it. Unless you replace or edit the Core mod, you have to override the item you wish to remove.
I've whipped up a mod (attached to this post) that should effectively remove the praying activity. All it does is set the chance of colonists deciding to do the praying activity to 0.
thank u very much
for explanation, and for mod 2
now i understand, how to change activities, and can do something better
i think about some fighting activities to train a melee skill
btw
strange, but if u have horseshoes for playing - they dont pray even in vanilla
horseshoes most popular activity for my colonists
Quote from: cuproPanda on September 19, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: SpaceDrunk on September 19, 2015, 10:09:54 PM
I kind of want the opposite, a mod that adds a game mode where you have to sacrifice one of your colonists every year to appease the evil star god TY-NAN, with terrible consequences if you don't.
Tyn'an demands muffalo blood or the crop blights continue!
Tyn'an needs the blood of a highborn virgin and the head of a person who's asking when the steam release will be
When they're praying, they're praying to you that eventually when they get a critical injury or a bullet to the brain causing them to be brain dead, you'll keep them safe in their own small house for the rest of their days.
Quote from: dareddevil7 on September 20, 2015, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: cuproPanda on September 19, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: SpaceDrunk on September 19, 2015, 10:09:54 PM
I kind of want the opposite, a mod that adds a game mode where you have to sacrifice one of your colonists every year to appease the evil star god TY-NAN, with terrible consequences if you don't.
Tyn'an demands muffalo blood or the crop blights continue!
Tyn'an needs the blood of a highborn virgin and the head of a person who's asking when the steam release will be
In an ocean of false promises and early access scams... A figure from the dimly lit sky descended.The gloomy world were immediately engulfed with light.It was the Great Tyn'an. In his palms were a kickstarter link leading to a shiny realm.He called it "Rimworld A1"Skeptical and cautious, we walked through the link. Unsure of what it holds.Then...All hope that we had lost in the past came rushing back at us.We found paradise.Our lord and saviour blessed us weekly with bugfixes, and monthly updates and replied to us equally in the community praying site.This perfect world went on and on for 12 more A's... until..."Hai guys, I'm gonna be taking a 6 month break. Getting pretty burned out here. Won't be much updates until then."Our lord and saviour has chosen to abandon us. Hope for content and bugfixes evaporated.The community was in turmoil. Some calmed themselves with hope of his return."cmon guys its only 6months."While others plunged deep into the realm of hopelessness.
"6 Months? what the fuck, you gotta be kidding me. I'm not playing this buggy mess."In a land of disarray, a group of strange people came.With codes on their head and strange markings of on their arms.With perfect synchronization, they extended they arms and offered they hands.The strange markings became readable.
The arms of the man in the middle read "EdB's Interface UI - Download 3.1.1 for Alpha 12d (Dropbox)"Each figure's arms were engraved with unique markings.
"Miscellaneous w MAI+Robots - MAI+Robots V1.12.4 - (standalone)"
"Expanded Prosthetics and Organ Engineering 1.51 - Download Version 1.51 (Mediafire):
Click Here!"One by one, they hands reached for ours and behind them came more coded figures.An endless row in the left, and countless line in the right.In the time of no updates they offered us hope, content, and features...But Tyn'an was watching...A single finger movement was all it took to hide the release forum away into the 404 ErrorealmAnd with that, the main line of mods end. Their creators banned, or in hiding.But their legacy will not be forgotten. So remember:"Modders were banned for our content."(lol, I have no idea why I just wrote that.)
not to interrupt the creating lore/head-canon here but an AI director that makes random production demands of your colony (purely opt in for obvious reasons) sounds fun in a few ways possibly.
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 10:58:26 AM
ok, i just do it by myself
try it, if u want, and tell me, how it works
it must remove the "praying" & "visiting grave" activities
Ok, so if you are an atheist, you cant use the calendar, you cant celebrate christmas easter or thanksgiving (which was caused by search for religious freedom) you cant use ad or bc, you cant eat waffles (which were originally christian hosts)
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 07:39:38 AM
Ok, so if you are an atheist, you cant use the calendar, you cant celebrate christmas easter or thanksgiving (which was caused by search for religious freedom) you cant use ad or bc, you cant eat waffles (which were originally christian hosts)
facepalm.jpg
dont make me laugh
dont even start
do not even start
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 10:58:26 AM
ok, i just do it by myself
try it, if u want, and tell me, how it works
it must remove the "praying" & "visiting grave" activities
Ok, so if you are an atheist, you cant use the calendar, you cant celebrate christmas easter or thanksgiving (which was caused by search for religious freedom) you cant use ad or bc, you cant eat waffles (which were originally christian hosts)
Christmas is in part pagan "festival" (can't find any better word...).
Also...
(http://media1.giphy.com/media/6OWIl75ibpuFO/giphy.gif)
"if you don't believe in god you can't use anything what people believing in god created"
No, it's not working like that. For example i can don't believe in God but be still happy every christmas that Jesus (as a normal man) was born. Nothing wrong with that.
*cough (http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Hypocrisy_of_celebrating_religious_holidays)* MAD GOD, you've done it now! You had to go and open the religion can-of-worms! What's next, asking about a communist/republican/anarchist faction? :P
Ok, mad god... let me question your logic a little:
So you are an Athiest, that means that you don't believe in god. Now your also named 'MAD GOD' which meens your a god. If god does not esist like you state then why do you say that your name is god? Better yet, How can you be a god who is mad if gods do not exist? Do you not believe in yourself. If you don't believe in yourself why shall we belive in you?
Edit: If god does not exist then does that men you don't exist?
Quote from: cuproPanda on September 22, 2015, 10:11:40 AM
*cough (http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Hypocrisy_of_celebrating_religious_holidays)* MAD_GOD, you've done it now! You had to go and open the religion can-of-worms! What's next, asking about a communist/republican/anarchist faction? :P
factions its good
i hope it will be done in future
but now i think about two things:
adding something to train melee skill, like punching bags, wooden dummies
now i know a little more about how to modify rimworld, and maybe i can do it by myself
and
second important thing, after atheism
why i can prepare a lavish meal only with meat?
i realy need a vegetarian lavish meal
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENT) on September 22, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
Ok, mad god... let me question your logic a little:
So you are an Athiest, that means that you don't believe in god. Now your also named 'MAD GOD' which meens your a god. If god does not esist like you state then why do you say that your name is god? Better yet, How can you be a god who is mad if gods do not exist? Do you not believe in yourself. If you don't believe in yourself why shall we belive in you?
i think this paradoxes much more funniest, then religious paradoxes
and THIS paradoxes is completely harmless
but this is offtop
please, do not start flame about religion
this is about modding
i just dont like what colonists must pray
they can pray, if player want this
if i can restrict anything, but can not restrict praying - its not right
they can eat dead bodies, but dont must eat dead bodies
i'm already have a colony with psychopathic cannibals & slavers
now i want to create a peacefully religious-free colony of vegetarian fighting zen monks
OK so I know that this thing started a religious discussion, just gonna say this. I can't prove he exists, you can't prove he doesn't exist. PLus, he exists no matter how you feel about him, what does the earth being flat have to do with God? If he doesn't exist, and the world came into being from the big bang, then where did all that matter come from. It didn't just appear, and matter can't stay in one form for forever. that's not how physics work. it had to be created by something with the power to do that. If matter did exists forever, then we would have been created sooner, thus the HUGE hole in the big bang theory. Also this. Miracles are real, with real scientists doing tests on hosts that became the flesh and blood, so drop it atheists. I have proof things defying the laws of physics exist, and you have no proof that they dont exist. Also, God doesn't work by going to someone and saying "I am real" He does that by using exisiting christians to convert nonbeleivers.
Quote from: Adamiks on September 22, 2015, 09:38:22 AM
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 17, 2015, 10:58:26 AM
ok, i just do it by myself
try it, if u want, and tell me, how it works
it must remove the "praying" & "visiting grave" activities
Ok, so if you are an atheist, you cant use the calendar, you cant celebrate christmas easter or thanksgiving (which was caused by search for religious freedom) you cant use ad or bc, you cant eat waffles (which were originally christian hosts)
Christmas is in part pagan "festival" (can't find any better word...).
Also...
(http://media1.giphy.com/media/6OWIl75ibpuFO/giphy.gif)
"if you don't believe in god you can't use anything what people believing in god created"
No, it's not working like that. For example i can don't believe in God but be still happy every christmas that Jesus (as a normal man) was born. Nothing wrong with that.
I more mean that the schools and stuff are now using ce and bce, so why do they still use our calendars, celebrations, foods.
"our calendars, celebrations, foods"
Nice point of view.
"USA send human to mun first! USA own whole Mun! NO NOT-NASA SCIENTISTS ALLOWED!".
It's literally what you're saying.
If you created something and shared it with other people you shared it with the whole world, it's not like people who created food recipes created them for believing people only.
Also, would like to see world not using BC? For atheists it could be X year when for christians and other religions this would be 2015.
Also (2), tradition is tradition. Presents are presents. If only people who believe in God could have christmas this would be so unfair.
Quote from: Adamiks on September 22, 2015, 04:07:07 PM
"our calendars, celebrations, foods"
Nice point of view.
"USA send human to mun first! USA own whole Mun! NO NOT-NASA SCIENTISTS ALLOWED!".
It's literally what you're saying.
If you created something and shared it with other people you shared it with the whole world, it's not like people who created food recipes created them for believing people only.
Also, would like to see world not using BC? For atheists it could be X year when for christians and other religions this would be 2015.
Also (2), tradition is tradition. Presents are presents. If only people who believe in God could have christmas this would be so unfair.
They can do the present stuff. That's not of catholic origins. I am saying that if they won't use the correct bc/ad, then they should not use any of the other christian things either.
But people *use* BC.....
About the BC thing: Wikipedia for example uses BCE (before current era) and CE (current era).
Also are you guys honestly attacking/defending Christianity on a request to change the name of the "Praying" joy activity to "Thinking"? Did anyone notice praying isn't necessarily a Christian idea to begin with? Nevermind.
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 22, 2015, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: TheGentlmen (GENT) on September 22, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
Ok, mad god... let me question your logic a little:
So you are an Athiest, that means that you don't believe in god. Now your also named 'MAD GOD' which meens your a god. If god does not esist like you state then why do you say that your name is god? Better yet, How can you be a god who is mad if gods do not exist? Do you not believe in yourself. If you don't believe in yourself why shall we belive in you?
i think this paradoxes much more funniest, then religious paradoxes
and THIS paradoxes is completely harmless
but this is offtop
please, do not start flame about religion
this is about modding
i just dont like what colonists must pray
they can pray, if player want this
if i can restrict anything, but can not restrict praying - its not right
they can eat dead bodies, but dont must eat dead bodies
i'm already have a colony with psychopathic cannibals & slavers
now i want to create a peacefully religious-free colony of vegetarian fighting zen monks
It was an interesting paradox I came up with. If anyone takes it seriously then they have nothing better to do.
Quote from: Alistaire on September 22, 2015, 06:39:01 PM
About the BC thing: Wikipedia for example uses BCE (before current era) and CE (current era).
Also are you guys honestly attacking/defending Christianity on a request to change the name of the "Praying" joy activity to "Thinking"? Did anyone notice praying isn't necessarily a Christian idea to begin with? Nevermind.
It isn't about christanity. It's about believing that there is God/Gods or whatever. Now we're talking about christian because that guy said atheists shouldn't use christian food/celebrations etc.
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 03:31:34 PM
OK so I know that this thing started a religious discussion, just gonna say this. I can't prove he exists, you can't prove he doesn't exist. PLus, he exists no matter how you feel about him, what does the earth being flat have to do with God? If he doesn't exist, and the world came into being from the big bang, then where did all that matter come from. It didn't just appear, and matter can't stay in one form for forever. that's not how physics work. it had to be created by something with the power to do that. If matter did exists forever, then we would have been created sooner, thus the HUGE hole in the big bang theory. Also this. Miracles are real, with real scientists doing tests on hosts that became the flesh and blood, so drop it atheists. I have proof things defying the laws of physics exist, and you have no proof that they dont exist. Also, God doesn't work by going to someone and saying "I am real" He does that by using exisiting christians to convert nonbeleivers.
--REASEACHING INSTENSIFIES--
"OK so I know that this thing started a religious discussion, just gonna say this. I can't prove he exists, you can't prove he doesn't exist. PLus, he exists no matter how you feel about him"
K, if he exists then where is your proof. Oh wait. You have NO proof. You can BELIEVE that he exist BUT untell you have proof you cannot claim for a fact that he exists. I BELIEVE he exists, but just beceasue I BELIEVE he exists doesn't meen that he existing is a fact.
"What does the earth being flat have to do with God?"
Nothing, thats just something we mentioned.
"If he doesn't exist, and the world came into being from the big bang, then where did all that matter come from."
Thier are theories that in a prevois univereese a big crunch happened. followed by our big bang. Then thier are theories that a blackhole/wormhole SO big in an other universe that it crunched everything up. Then lost stability and explode as in the big bang. But the truef is that scientest don't know yet. But thier constantly looking for an answer, or for another model (Although that would be hard to find), science isn't perfect, in the last 100 years we've advanced more then we did in the last thousand, with that our knowledge grows exponentialy and science is always evolving, from good model, to greater model to best model. If you can get the answer of where the matter came from OR find another model WITH *FACTS* to back it up then you will get a noble. No, not only a noble, you'll have advanced the field of Physics and astronomy by DECADES.
"It didn't just appear,"
ACTUALY matter _CAN_ just appear. In coiliders, by focusing a huge some of energy in a point they were able to make a pair of Virtual particles, one negative and other positive. Then they'd immediately merge together and disapear.
Read:http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-virtual-particles-rea/
Slight mention:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztc6QPNUqls
"and matter can't stay in one form for forever."
HAHAHA. I got a cup infront of me. Its been thier for a week. Yes, i'm messy. But point is they _CAN_ stay thier.
"that's not how physics work."
YES it is.
"it had to be created by something with the power to do that."
K, mind to explain gravity. Quantum physics defines it has heavy objects put curves in the spacetime continuum. so when earth orbits the sun, its actualy going in a straight line (or atleast from quatum pysics perspective), but because the sun is MASSIVE it cuases a dent in the spacetime continuum, which makes that straight line not so straight.
(http://i.space.com/images/i/000/021/853/original/gravity-probe-b.jpg?1348009189)
So it does go on a straight line, its just bent.
But here is the question, if the object is not in motion then how will it fall? Something with the power needs to push it into motion.
Well, I don't know, scientest don't know, but like again, if ya have a better model with FACTs to back it up, then show it to a scientific commite so ya can get a noble. Probably patent is first or something so they don't steal it...
Where's the higs bosom get its energy? Like we get a MINORITY of our mass from it. But where does it get it's?
All unaswered questions, which is why science is constantly advancing.
On a further unrelated not, scientest where able to multiply the lifetime of rats by 3 if whats gonna kill them was NOT a genictic problem by inserting a cancerized version of what's ever's gonna kill them in thier body. Humans who have a 100% chance of dieing unless this works on hummans toohave volunteared to have it tested om them. Testing should start sometime in 2015 to 2017 (As the testing in the US has been aproved by the US gov) and papers of the results should come after that. If it works we mabey able to multply lifetimes by 3. This ofcourse if it works will lead to overpopulation, which will also lead to starvation unless the Goverments can put some restrictions on Woohoo and births, A.k.a mass-(mostly likely non-permentant)sterilization to the population, becuase you simply cannot sustain a race which rarely dies but multiples in numbers. Many of my fellow coworkers have been discussion the effics and repercussion of this.
"I have proof things defying the laws of physics exist, and you have no proof that they dont exist."
Which are what?
"Also, God doesn't work by going to someone and saying "I am real" He does that by using exisiting christians to convert nonbeleivers."
I see no reason why he shouldn't.
Now, let me end this with that I'm a muslim. I do BELIEVE in god. AND god and science can coexist. Thier is no reason that just becuase you belive in god that makes science immediately null. I just put this together to question YOUR logic. Your little rant was so full of flaws that I felt I _HAD_ to respond with my own rant (not saying that my rant doesn't contain flaws).
I will NOT argue with you on your beliefs, if you post sometihng which basicly says I'm stupid or similar I'll ignore it and move on. If ya want a CIVILIZED discuasain take it my Gmail:
[email protected]
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 03:31:34 PM
OK so I know that this thing started a religious discussion, just gonna say this. I can't prove he exists, you can't prove he doesn't exist. PLus, he exists no matter how you feel about him, what does the earth being flat have to do with God? If he doesn't exist, and the world came into being from the big bang, then where did all that matter come from. It didn't just appear, and matter can't stay in one form for forever. that's not how physics work. it had to be created by something with the power to do that. If matter did exists forever, then we would have been created sooner, thus the HUGE hole in the big bang theory. Also this. Miracles are real, with real scientists doing tests on hosts that became the flesh and blood, so drop it atheists. I have proof things defying the laws of physics exist, and you have no proof that they dont exist. Also, God doesn't work by going to someone and saying "I am real" He does that by using exisiting christians to convert nonbeleivers.
Let me tl;dr gentlemens post: You have zero proof, you're wrong, let's drop the subject (Last part is from me).
Religion...
Jesus christ, how controversial.
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 22, 2015, 10:34:24 AM
factions its good
i hope it will be done in future
but now i think about two things:
adding something to train melee skill, like punching bags, wooden dummies
now i know a little more about how to modify rimworld, and maybe i can do it by myself
and
second important thing, after atheism
why i can prepare a lavish meal only with meat?
i realy need a vegetarian lavish meal
1. Here's a mod with archery targets and melee dummies
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=10623.msg105052#msg105052
2. Also the lavish meal needing meat is a sort of balancing thing. Removing that would pretty much make meat useless and you could just live off forever on corn with 10+ mood buffs. But that's just my opinion. Dunno how to remove ingredients though.
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I kind of want the opposite, a mod that adds a game mode where you have to sacrifice one of your colonists every year to appease the evil star god TY-NAN, with terrible consequences if you don't.
Tyn'an demands muffalo blood or the crop blights continue!
Tyn'an needs the blood of a highborn virgin and the head of a person who's asking when the steam release will be
In an ocean of false promises and early access scams... A figure from the dimly lit sky descended.
The gloomy world were immediately engulfed with light.
It was the Great Tyn'an. In his palms were a kickstarter link leading to a shiny realm.
He called it "Rimworld A1"
Skeptical and cautious, we walked through the link. Unsure of what it holds.
Then...
All hope that we had lost in the past came rushing back at us.
We found paradise.
Our lord and saviour blessed us weekly with bugfixes, and monthly updates and replied to us equally in the community praying site.
This perfect world went on and on for 12 more A's... until...
"Hai guys, I'm gonna be taking a 6 month break. Getting pretty burned out here. Won't be much updates until then."
Our lord and saviour has chosen to abandon us. Hope for content and bugfixes evaporated.
The community was in turmoil. Some calmed themselves with hope of his return.
"cmon guys its only 6months."
While others plunged deep into the realm of hopelessness.
"6 Months? what the fuck, you gotta be kidding me. I'm not playing this buggy mess."
In a land of disarray, a group of strange people came.
With codes on their head and strange markings of on their arms.
With perfect synchronization, they extended they arms and offered they hands.
The strange markings became readable.
The arms of the man in the middle read "EdB's Interface UI - Download 3.1.1 for Alpha 12d (Dropbox)"
Each figure's arms were engraved with unique markings.
"Miscellaneous w MAI+Robots - MAI+Robots V1.12.4 - (standalone)"
"Expanded Prosthetics and Organ Engineering 1.51 - Download Version 1.51 (Mediafire):
Click Here!"
One by one, they hands reached for ours and behind them came more coded figures.
An endless row in the left, and countless line in the right.
In the time of no updates they offered us hope, content, and features...
But Tyn'an was watching...
A single finger movement was all it took to hide the release forum away into the 404 Errorealm
And with that, the main line of mods end. Their creators banned, or in hiding.
But their legacy will not be forgotten. So remember:
"Modders were banned for our content."
(lol, I have no idea why I just wrote that.)
This is going in my signature with credit to you
Quote from: dareddevil7 on September 22, 2015, 08:36:33 PM
Quote from: A Friend on September 21, 2015, 12:00:16 AM
Quote from: dareddevil7 on September 20, 2015, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: cuproPanda on September 19, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: SpaceDrunk on September 19, 2015, 10:09:54 PM
I kind of want the opposite, a mod that adds a game mode where you have to sacrifice one of your colonists every year to appease the evil star god TY-NAN, with terrible consequences if you don't.
Tyn'an demands muffalo blood or the crop blights continue!
Tyn'an needs the blood of a highborn virgin and the head of a person who's asking when the steam release will be
In an ocean of false promises and early access scams... A figure from the dimly lit sky descended.
The gloomy world were immediately engulfed with light.
It was the Great Tyn'an. In his palms were a kickstarter link leading to a shiny realm.
He called it "Rimworld A1"
Skeptical and cautious, we walked through the link. Unsure of what it holds.
Then...
All hope that we had lost in the past came rushing back at us.
We found paradise.
Our lord and saviour blessed us weekly with bugfixes, and monthly updates and replied to us equally in the community praying site.
This perfect world went on and on for 12 more A's... until...
"Hai guys, I'm gonna be taking a 6 month break. Getting pretty burned out here. Won't be much updates until then."
Our lord and saviour has chosen to abandon us. Hope for content and bugfixes evaporated.
The community was in turmoil. Some calmed themselves with hope of his return.
"cmon guys its only 6months."
While others plunged deep into the realm of hopelessness.
"6 Months? what the fuck, you gotta be kidding me. I'm not playing this buggy mess."
In a land of disarray, a group of strange people came.
With codes on their head and strange markings of on their arms.
With perfect synchronization, they extended they arms and offered they hands.
The strange markings became readable.
The arms of the man in the middle read "EdB's Interface UI - Download 3.1.1 for Alpha 12d (Dropbox)"
Each figure's arms were engraved with unique markings.
"Miscellaneous w MAI+Robots - MAI+Robots V1.12.4 - (standalone)"
"Expanded Prosthetics and Organ Engineering 1.51 - Download Version 1.51 (Mediafire):
Click Here!"
One by one, they hands reached for ours and behind them came more coded figures.
An endless row in the left, and countless line in the right.
In the time of no updates they offered us hope, content, and features...
But Tyn'an was watching...
A single finger movement was all it took to hide the release forum away into the 404 Errorealm
And with that, the main line of mods end. Their creators banned, or in hiding.
But their legacy will not be forgotten. So remember:
"Modders were banned for our content."
(lol, I have no idea why I just wrote that.)
This is going in my signature with credit to you
damnit it wont fit
Well, the gentleman, how long is that cup going to stay a cup? it won't stay a cup for eternity. That is my point. A higher power HAS to exist because it is physically impossible for matter to always exist. More matter CANNOT be created, phantom versions can, and particle colliders collide particales at high speed, not energy. You are saying that matter always existed, because matter can't spring into existence. You basically don't believe in god but you believe in miracles...
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 08:43:05 PM
Well, the gentleman, how long is that cup going to stay a cup? it won't stay a cup for eternity. That is my point. A higher power HAS to exist because it is physically impossible for matter to always exist. More matter CANNOT be created, phantom versions can, and particle colliders collide particales at high speed, not energy.
Can we not argue religion and just accept tynan as our lord and savior?
Quote from: Z0MBIE2 on September 22, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 03:31:34 PM
OK so I know that this thing started a religious discussion, just gonna say this. I can't prove he exists, you can't prove he doesn't exist. PLus, he exists no matter how you feel about him, what does the earth being flat have to do with God? If he doesn't exist, and the world came into being from the big bang, then where did all that matter come from. It didn't just appear, and matter can't stay in one form for forever. that's not how physics work. it had to be created by something with the power to do that. If matter did exists forever, then we would have been created sooner, thus the HUGE hole in the big bang theory. Also this. Miracles are real, with real scientists doing tests on hosts that became the flesh and blood, so drop it atheists. I have proof things defying the laws of physics exist, and you have no proof that they dont exist. Also, God doesn't work by going to someone and saying "I am real" He does that by using exisiting christians to convert nonbeleivers.
Let me tl;dr gentlemens post: You have zero proof, you're wrong, let's drop the subject (Last part is from me).
I have no proof you exist, but here you are writing messages and posts. You have no proof I exist, but here I am writing a message to you. I have no proof God exists, but here he is creating this perfect world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis You say god doesn't exist, but what are the chances of the earth forming just the right way for us? Astronomical! I will never be able to convince you, you can't convince me, but at least I don't approve of slaughtering innocent children.
"Can we not argue religion and just accept tynan as our lord and savior?"
Lol
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 08:43:05 PM
Well, the gentleman, how long is that cup going to stay a cup? it won't stay a cup for eternity. That is my point. A higher power HAS to exist because it is physically impossible for matter to always exist. More matter CANNOT be created, phantom versions can, and particle colliders collide particales at high speed, not energy.
"Well, the gentleman, how long is that cup going to stay a cup? it won't stay a cup for eternity."
Yes
" higher power HAS to exist because it is physically impossible for matter to always exist."
False. The cup will decay into another form of mater OR energy.
All mater has Mass.
Energy can become mass.
If it has mass then it can become matter.
So it will become another form of Mater OR energy, but it can also be turned back. I could theoretically turn a computer into a few cups.
I could theoretically turn a star into billions of cups.
Thier's simply no economically viable method to do this yet.
"More matter CANNOT be created, phantom versions can"
Yes and No. TECHNICALLY its still mater, it just disappears immediately by colliding with its opposite releasing a similar amount of energy of the energy that created it. (In theory it should be exactly, but will the particles were generating some got radiated away. But the sum of the energy is always 0)
"and particle colliders collide particales at high speed, not energy."
But speed is a type of energy, its KINITEC energy. Water falls convert kinetic energy into electric energy. Rubbing your leg on the floor converts kinetic energy into heat(which is a type of energy). So the speed literately IS energy.
Read:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
Read:http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211_fall2002.web.dir/shawna_sastamoinen/Velocity&Kinetic.htm
Look, I am not gonna argue with you. look up all the miracles that have occured. read this page http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html . read about jesus' face in the veil. Do you know where they found part of the bibles words? in a cave. Dating back to 50 AD
*edit* also read this. http://www.everystudent.com/features/faith.html
also, if your cup will stay a cup for eternity, then why, in your next post, you say it will change. and if that is true, then everything is everything.
Quote from: dareddevil7 on September 22, 2015, 08:45:37 PM
Can we not argue religion and just accept tynan as our lord and savior?
YES! LET'S MOVE ON!
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 09:17:47 PM
Look, I am not gonna argue with you. look up all the miracles that have occured. read this page http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html . read about jesus' face in the veil. Do you know where they found part of the bibles words? in a cave. Dating back to 50 AD
*edit* also read this. http://www.everystudent.com/features/faith.html
also, if your cup will stay a cup for eternity, then why, in your next post, you say it will change. and if that is true, then everything is everything.
This shall be the last post on this topic, but let me make myself clear:
"But point is they _CAN_ stay thier."
See the word 'can'? That doesn't meen it WILL, but instead it MAY. I never stated it will last for eternity. It COULD, but the chances of that are improbable. Its more likley for me to drop it on my foot, have the cup and foot shattered, have my foot aputated and getting a bionic foot ( plus becoming a famous guy), then having the cup burned on the stake for ruining my foot.
And no, everything is NOT everything. Everything you can see is Everything you can see becuase its all mater. But not everything is everythiong. Thier's dark matter and anti-matter. All dark matter is dark matter, just like all matter is matter and all dark energy in energy and all anti-matter is anti-matter.
And just like matter has energy, dark matter has dark energy and Anti-matter MAY have anti-energy(althought I'm not sure that anti-energy exists. To lazy to check.)
As for your first link:
1-The Earth:
Millions (http://billions)
trillions riduculas numerber of stars, if evety star had only 1 planet then thier would be tons of planet. It makes no sence thta not oneof them wold have life of some way shape or form.
The human brain: Evolution.
The eye: Evolution.
" Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter."
K, What is living? Why is a rock not living? I don't feel like delving into philosoph, but the hort answer is, some things clumped togerther, they reacted togeerhter, and started pumping O into the air from CO2, even simpler than algea. then things kinda got cluttered and mutations happened. HUZZA, life. and pointlesly floating in water is pointless so things evolved to give them advantage other ofther 'things'. One of thos was a eye. It when from a simple never, to... well your eye. Other many steps.
Watch:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrKZBh8BL_U
Same thing for brain.
2. K, sceintests don't know... but thats not realy proof. Its like saying I frew a paper into the air. I couldn't find it. Thorever it must be around Jupiter. Now you must search every inch of Jupiter at the SAME time just to prove me wrong.
3. We donot know if gravity acts simulary in a blackhole, the earth is constantly slowing its spin, if that counter was on the sun it would heat, Speed is relative (Which is something I forgot to mention in the gravity bit which I just realized now, making it impossible for something to be unmoving. But still, if something WAS unmoving then what would happen?). If you where riding light, you'ld say that the light isn't moving but that everything around you was moving at the speed of light.
4. Evoloution. The first life had barley ANY DNA, things gotten more complex since then.
5. I'ld say that's human psychology.
6. I'd like to SEE one of these miracles. Not rread a book about them.
:l
Well, might as well give my opinion about this religion thingy.
(My dumb point of view)
I don't know what my kind of belief is called. I'm not full-on Atheist nor am I religious. I'm sure there's a supernatural thing out there. We all came from something right? Well whether it's a god, Science™, or some kind of magical wizard event. I frankly don't care all that much. What I care about is that because of it, we can exist, and we can enjoy life. I am very grateful for it, but I don't feel like saying it everyday.
*There was originally an essay here but I don't feel like putting more wood for the fire*
Blah Bleh Bloh... These are things people have believed in for a majority of their lives. You cannot just instantly change it with a single article (Or any number of it). Religion gave most of these people hope, where they should have given up by then. Telling them "God doesn't exist you silly goose!" is equivalent to:
"Give up on getting a better life bro."
"Give up on your comatose brother waking up bro."
"Give up on your lost dog being still alive bro."
"Oh and everything you devoted most of your life to is a sham. lol.
I won't bombard them with facts and shit. I'll just respect their beliefs while holding my own. What I won't respect is people forcefully shoving their fucking opinions down everyone's throat. Atheists and Theists.
I believe in magic, it adds a bit of wonder and mystery to my life. And if it's just a trick... well whatever, it adds something to my life.
This is gonna get locked soon if this contiunes. I guarantee it.
Quote from: johiah on September 22, 2015, 08:51:57 PM
I have no proof you exist, but here you are writing messages and posts. You have no proof I exist, but here I am writing a message to you. I have no proof God exists, but here he is creating this perfect world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis You say god doesn't exist, but what are the chances of the earth forming just the right way for us? Astronomical! I will never be able to convince you, you can't convince me, but at least I don't approve of slaughtering innocent children.
"rare earth"? You know how many planets are out there? And if planet can exist in X distance from star then why it can't exist in habitable zone + have water and carbon + have magnetic field? Yeah, it's hard to have that all, but just look at number of planets = earth isn't rare.
Also, people discovered another earth already - Kepler (random freakin number..). So you can just throw your theory to the thrash can.
"6. I'd like to SEE one of these miracles. Not rread a book about them."
Exactly. I can say that i'm 5 meters long and i can see God - it's miracle! Also i can say that my cat said "Gp to the fridge and look for the ligth", i would saw face in that ligth and create a new religion based on that.
I will believe in Bible when i will be able to time travel and see it. Besides that creators of Bible were just mostly crazy or super inteligent to give stupid people simple laws or Jesus was simple alien. Yes, alien. Another race. There is higher chance for another race making human-alien hybryde than for a God!
Because? Starting of aliens would exist like me or you, they would live on another planet when God wouldn't be like me or you and wouldn't live on the planet - simple logic 101.
Actually, it wasn't a paper, it was a teacup:
EDIT:DIS PARTZ GONNA CUAZE MORE TROUBLZ THANZ ITZ WORTHZ
No more religion stuff, this is exactly why I thought 'Oh great, I know what's going to happen here' seeing the thread name.
Yes! Someone, close the thread, quick!
Yeah this kidna got out of hand. I just hate it when people freak out about a thing like praying being in the game. With that logic they need to mod earth and remove theists.
I can say same thing about your reaction - you freaked out because some guy wanted to *mod* (again, **MOD** the game, this isn't suggestion to change the game or something) the game and delete praying.
Well... I can say same thing about me too. Paradox! ;d
Quote from: Adamiks on September 23, 2015, 10:47:46 AM
I can say same thing about your reaction - you freaked out because some guy wanted to *mod* (again, **MOD** the game, this isn't suggestion to change the game or something) the game and delete praying.
Well... I can say same thing about me too. Paradox! ;d
Lol. Everyone freaked out about this way too much.
Quote from: A Friend on September 22, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
1. Here's a mod with archery targets and melee dummies
https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=10623.msg105052#msg105052
2. Also the lavish meal needing meat is a sort of balancing thing. Removing that would pretty much make meat useless and you could just live off forever on corn with 10+ mood buffs. But that's just my opinion. Dunno how to remove ingredients though.
thanx for a link, friend
about balance - vegetarian lavish meal still need 20 ingredients. balanced.
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 23, 2015, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: A Friend on September 22, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
2. Also the lavish meal needing meat is a sort of balancing thing. Removing that would pretty much make meat useless and you could just live off forever on corn with 10+ mood buffs. But that's just my opinion. Dunno how to remove ingredients though.
about balance - vegetarian lavish meal still need 20 ingredients. balanced.
Eh, it still isn't balanced just because the 10 extra ingredients isn't much of a cost for the mood buff. I'll make the mod tho, give me like 10-30 minutes depending on how distracted I get.
Edit: Okay, did it. Meet 'Eat Your Greens' the veggie mod. There's 'fine' and 'lavish' meals made entirely out of raw plant ingredients. I tried to balance it by changing work time to make, joy received, skill required to make them, nutrition value, all slight changes to balance it.
2nd Edit: Much more balanced version, check it out if you want. https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=15162.msg160281#msg160281
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Quote from: Z0MBIE2 on September 23, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: MAD GOD on September 23, 2015, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: A Friend on September 22, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
2. Also the lavish meal needing meat is a sort of balancing thing. Removing that would pretty much make meat useless and you could just live off forever on corn with 10+ mood buffs. But that's just my opinion. Dunno how to remove ingredients though.
about balance - vegetarian lavish meal still need 20 ingredients. balanced.
Eh, it still isn't balanced just because the 10 extra ingredients isn't much of a cost for the mood buff. I'll make the mod tho, give me like 10-30 minutes depending on how distracted I get.
Edit: Okay, did it. Meet 'Eat Your Greens' the veggie mod. There's 'fine' and 'lavish' meals made entirely out of raw plant ingredients. I tried to balance it by changing work time to make, joy received, skill required to make them, nutrition value, all slight changes to balance it.
2nd Edit: Much more balanced version, check it out if you want. https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=15162.msg160281#msg160281
thanx u much
looks like i have all i need
I like how athiests are intolerant of anyone that isn't an Atheist.
I have lots of colonists that never pray. If you don't like it, kill them or give them more joy objects.
Colonists also never seem to pray in barracks.
Quote from: Brigadon on October 05, 2015, 05:53:38 AM
I like how athiests are intolerant of anyone that isn't an Atheist.
I have lots of colonists that never pray. If you don't like it, kill them or give them more joy objects.
Colonists also never seem to pray in barracks.
interesting,interesting,interesting. never noticed before. those are all pretty cool and the first one is slightly obvious. =P
Quote from: Brigadon on October 05, 2015, 05:53:38 AM
I like how athiests are intolerant of anyone that isn't an Atheist.
Don't be starting a flamewar here, no no, the mods got enough on their plate.
Hi, I'm a mod and junk; anyways for those wigging out about the whole praying thing I'm just going to smack ya gently and remind you that at this point in history (seeing as RimWorld takes place like a crap ton farther into history) most religions as you know it are dead. Buddhism, Satanism, Christianity, Judaism, etc, all of those are long gone by the time your colonists crash land so any hate you've got for a particular religion nowadays can be kept in your edgy little shorts. We aren't talking about your Grandma's religion here sonny, we're talking religions based around the cults of the future.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lisa, my 81 year old colonist with a background in Joywire and who dabbles with being a cold-lover isn't bowing down and praying to Kel' Valiz-do, the great Rim Dragon god who brings candy farts and free technology to those who bow to her. Maybe Chris is sitting there praying to the Farming god Bob, praying that his his 2 skill in growing doesn't cause starvation again this year because he's an idiot.
Just saying, the point of this push is stupid. If you have a beef with religion keep it out of here as your petty Earth religions don't mean squat this far in the future. I mean hell it's a future with telepaths, giant robotic constructions, and entire worlds that literally consume the populace and put them in a giant computer. Nobody cares about deity's like we currently do, it's all flavor and joy based at this time. Tynan has mentioned an interest in looking at different religious ideas for RimWorld though so who knows, maybe you'll make your own by this time next year.
Oh and before I forget, if you idiots keep arguing over religion or keep drowning each other out with your opinions I'm going to start throwing the ban hammer around <3 Just Saiyan
If you want to discuss religion and such, like what was happening a couple of pages back, take it to the Off-Topic subforum (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?board=4.0). That's what it's there for.
However, from this point forward, please stay on topic. :)
Quote from: Ramsis on October 05, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Hi, I'm a mod and junk; anyways for those wigging out about the whole praying thing I'm just going to smack ya gently and remind you that at this point in history (seeing as RimWorld takes place like a crap ton farther into history) most religions as you know it are dead. Buddhism, Satanism, Christianity, Judaism, etc, all of those are long gone by the time your colonists crash land so any hate you've got for a particular religion nowadays can be kept in your edgy little shorts. We aren't talking about your Grandma's religion here sonny, we're talking religions based around the cults of the future.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lisa, my 81 year old colonist with a background in Joywire and who dabbles with being a cold-lover isn't bowing down and praying to Kel' Valiz-do, the great Rim Dragon god who brings candy farts and free technology to those who bow to her. Maybe Chris is sitting there praying to the Farming god Bob, praying that his his 2 skill in growing doesn't cause starvation again this year because he's an idiot.
Just saying, the point of this push is stupid. If you have a beef with religion keep it out of here as your petty Earth religions don't mean squat this far in the future. I mean hell it's a future with telepaths, giant robotic constructions, and entire worlds that literally consume the populace and put them in a giant computer. Nobody cares about deity's like we currently do, it's all flavor and joy based at this time. Tynan has mentioned an interest in looking at different religious ideas for RimWorld though so who knows, maybe you'll make your own by this time next year.
Oh and before I forget, if you idiots keep arguing over religion or keep drowning each other out with your opinions I'm going to start throwing the ban hammer around <3 Just Saiyan
We stopped arguing like 6 days ago....
Quote from: ItchyFlea on October 05, 2015, 12:09:21 PM
If you want to discuss religion and such, like what was happening a couple of pages back, take it to the Off-Topic subforum (https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?board=4.0). That's what it's there for.
However, from this point forward, please stay on topic. :)
please just close this thread/post
"Atheism mod"
Not even close to being surprised that it has 6 pages of replies.
Quote from: Ramsis on October 05, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Hi, I'm a mod and junk; anyways for those wigging out about the whole praying thing I'm just going to smack ya gently and remind you that at this point in history (seeing as RimWorld takes place like a crap ton farther into history) most religions as you know it are dead. Buddhism, Satanism, Christianity, Judaism, etc, all of those are long gone by the time your colonists crash land so any hate you've got for a particular religion nowadays can be kept in your edgy little shorts. We aren't talking about your Grandma's religion here sonny, we're talking religions based around the cults of the future.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lisa, my 81 year old colonist with a background in Joywire and who dabbles with being a cold-lover isn't bowing down and praying to Kel' Valiz-do, the great Rim Dragon god who brings candy farts and free technology to those who bow to her. Maybe Chris is sitting there praying to the Farming god Bob, praying that his his 2 skill in growing doesn't cause starvation again this year because he's an idiot.
Just saying, the point of this push is stupid. If you have a beef with religion keep it out of here as your petty Earth religions don't mean squat this far in the future. I mean hell it's a future with telepaths, giant robotic constructions, and entire worlds that literally consume the populace and put them in a giant computer. Nobody cares about deity's like we currently do, it's all flavor and joy based at this time. Tynan has mentioned an interest in looking at different religious ideas for RimWorld though so who knows, maybe you'll make your own by this time next year.
Oh and before I forget, if you idiots keep arguing over religion or keep drowning each other out with your opinions I'm going to start throwing the ban hammer around <3 Just Saiyan
Quote from: johiah on October 05, 2015, 02:13:34 PM
Quote from: Ramsis on October 05, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
--SNIP--
We stopped arguing like 6 days ago....
Johiah is right... you've came too late... the only thing you've done is awaken this dead thread.
Actually gentlemen, the thread was very active when he posted that, they just hadn't argued very recently. Still needed the warning as it could of happened again.
Quote from: A Friend on September 22, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
2. Also the lavish meal needing meat is a sort of balancing thing. Removing that would pretty much make meat useless and you could just live off forever on corn with 10+ mood buffs. But that's just my opinion. Dunno how to remove ingredients though.
I know this is a bit old, but still felt I should point out that there's always tofu in the vegetable garden mod. If someone already pointed that out then I'm sorry for being a bit slow on the uptake :-[ Also if you don't want to download all of vegetable garden just for tofu, you might be able to convince dismar to make a "Tofu Only" side packet, sort of like his Bio Generator. He's pretty open to suggestions as long as you're polite about it :P There's the Quorn mod to if you want hot pink bubble gum mushrooms as a meat replacement ( Not meant as disrespectful, they seriously look like hot pink bubble gum! ) Just saying we now have a few vegetabletarian mod options including ZOMBIE2's.
Edit: Sorry for being off topic, but it's not like I'm arguing about crap.
Quote from: Z0MBIE2 on October 07, 2015, 08:24:12 PM
Actually gentlemen, the thread was very active when he posted that, they just hadn't argued very recently. Still needed the warning as it could of happened again.
Nobody had posted in six days, except something about lavish meals without meat.
Okay no, now we're having an argument about dead threads, shut your yaps ya filthy animals.
Quote from: Ramsis on October 05, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Hi, I'm a mod and junk; anyways for those wigging out about the whole praying thing I'm just going to smack ya gently and remind you that at this point in history (seeing as RimWorld takes place like a crap ton farther into history) most religions as you know it are dead. Buddhism, Satanism, Christianity, Judaism, etc, all of those are long gone by the time your colonists crash land so any hate you've got for a particular religion nowadays can be kept in your edgy little shorts. We aren't talking about your Grandma's religion here sonny, we're talking religions based around the cults of the future.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lisa, my 81 year old colonist with a background in Joywire and who dabbles with being a cold-lover isn't bowing down and praying to Kel' Valiz-do, the great Rim Dragon god who brings candy farts and free technology to those who bow to her. Maybe Chris is sitting there praying to the Farming god Bob, praying that his his 2 skill in growing doesn't cause starvation again this year because he's an idiot.
Just saying, the point of this push is stupid. If you have a beef with religion keep it out of here as your petty Earth religions don't mean squat this far in the future. I mean hell it's a future with telepaths, giant robotic constructions, and entire worlds that literally consume the populace and put them in a giant computer. Nobody cares about deity's like we currently do, it's all flavor and joy based at this time. Tynan has mentioned an interest in looking at different religious ideas for RimWorld though so who knows, maybe you'll make your own by this time next year.
Oh and before I forget, if you idiots keep arguing over religion or keep drowning each other out with your opinions I'm going to start throwing the ban hammer around <3 Just Saiyan
Not arguing with whether religions are real or not or anything like that, but a crapton in the future doesn't really mean that the traditional religions won't be around. The last major change in Judaism occured about 1200 years ago, but it has existed in a very similar form for nearly 3000 years. Christianity is (obviously) about 2000 years old, islam is 1500, and Hinduism may have existed for as long as 5000 years.
Sure, in America religion is not as popular as it used to be, but I strongly suspect that with an unbroken chain of literacy (In other words, unless almost every adult human on earth is exterminated and all books are destroyed) the 'traditional' religions may still exist, although if it's far enough in the future that humans have evolved without arms and legs (snicker) the majority of the major religions will probably be changed quite a bit. There will always be throwbacks and fundamentalists that will use an earlier form, however.
No offense, but a lot of people seem to think that 'the future' won't have ties to the past, but historical evidence suggests that the current trend of anti-religion 'enlightenment' is going to be as short-lived as all of the previous ones. Religious fervor ebbs and flows, but in general the major religious upheavals follow the ethnic traditions, and are very hard to kill without being actively stamped out via genocide (as happens with most small naturist religions that get overwhelmed by a stronger culture with a more aggressive religion)
I suspect there will be MORE major religions that far in the future, but I don't think the versions we have now will get stamped out. Even the countries that once embraced anti-religion, primarily China and Russia, are experiencing a resurgence in their traditional religions (russian fundamentalism and chinese buddhism). It seems more likely that religious expansion will fuel colonization waves.
We should stop this now. Again...
Quote from: Brigadon on October 09, 2015, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: Ramsis on October 05, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Hi, I'm a mod and junk; anyways for those wigging out about the whole praying thing I'm just going to smack ya gently and remind you that at this point in history (seeing as RimWorld takes place like a crap ton farther into history) most religions as you know it are dead. Buddhism, Satanism, Christianity, Judaism, etc, all of those are long gone by the time your colonists crash land so any hate you've got for a particular religion nowadays can be kept in your edgy little shorts. We aren't talking about your Grandma's religion here sonny, we're talking religions based around the cults of the future.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lisa, my 81 year old colonist with a background in Joywire and who dabbles with being a cold-lover isn't bowing down and praying to Kel' Valiz-do, the great Rim Dragon god who brings candy farts and free technology to those who bow to her. Maybe Chris is sitting there praying to the Farming god Bob, praying that his his 2 skill in growing doesn't cause starvation again this year because he's an idiot.
Just saying, the point of this push is stupid. If you have a beef with religion keep it out of here as your petty Earth religions don't mean squat this far in the future. I mean hell it's a future with telepaths, giant robotic constructions, and entire worlds that literally consume the populace and put them in a giant computer. Nobody cares about deity's like we currently do, it's all flavor and joy based at this time. Tynan has mentioned an interest in looking at different religious ideas for RimWorld though so who knows, maybe you'll make your own by this time next year.
Oh and before I forget, if you idiots keep arguing over religion or keep drowning each other out with your opinions I'm going to start throwing the ban hammer around <3 Just Saiyan
Not arguing with whether religions are real or not or anything like that, but a crapton in the future doesn't really mean that the traditional religions won't be around. The last major change in Judaism occured about 1200 years ago, but it has existed in a very similar form for nearly 3000 years. Christianity is (obviously) about 2000 years old, islam is 1500, and Hinduism may have existed for as long as 5000 years.
Sure, in America religion is not as popular as it used to be, but I strongly suspect that with an unbroken chain of literacy (In other words, unless almost every adult human on earth is exterminated and all books are destroyed) the 'traditional' religions may still exist, although if it's far enough in the future that humans have evolved without arms and legs (snicker) the majority of the major religions will probably be changed quite a bit. There will always be throwbacks and fundamentalists that will use an earlier form, however.
No offense, but a lot of people seem to think that 'the future' won't have ties to the past, but historical evidence suggests that the current trend of anti-religion 'enlightenment' is going to be as short-lived as all of the previous ones. Religious fervor ebbs and flows, but in general the major religious upheavals follow the ethnic traditions, and are very hard to kill without being actively stamped out via genocide (as happens with most small naturist religions that get overwhelmed by a stronger culture with a more aggressive religion)
I suspect there will be MORE major religions that far in the future, but I don't think the versions we have now will get stamped out. Even the countries that once embraced anti-religion, primarily China and Russia, are experiencing a resurgence in their traditional religions (russian fundamentalism and chinese buddhism). It seems more likely that religious expansion will fuel colonization waves.
Gj Ramsis. You've rebooted a dead thread.
Brigadon... He just straight up said don't argue about religion. And you're arguing about religion. Yes, you're only talking about the length and what he said, but yeah...
...and most of you received warnings for being off-topic in this thread.
Do not do it again. Either stay on topic, or take it to the off-topic subforum.
The topic of this thread is in the original post.
Brigadon change your name to a brigand, It would fit you better