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Title: No new updates?
Post by: Takuwind on April 02, 2016, 01:48:33 AM
Whats the status of this game?  I used to get emails frequently with a link to new patches, but is stopped quite a while ago.  Is the developer still supporting the game and preparing new updates?
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Haplo on April 02, 2016, 01:56:21 AM
You can read about what is being worked on here (https://ludeon.com/blog/).
So the next update will come soon(tm) ;D
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: mumblemumble on April 02, 2016, 02:18:24 AM
Tynan took a winter vacation after v12, but the new update I suspect should be out quite soon, and be very good.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: humblebundle on April 02, 2016, 11:47:35 AM
I hope the version is really fixed, better 4-7 more days, then a fix after a few days and start all over again
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: mumblemumble on April 02, 2016, 02:54:15 PM
Quote from: humblebundle on April 02, 2016, 11:47:35 AM
I hope the version is really fixed, better 4-7 more days, then a fix after a few days and start all over again
I agree, BUT, to be frank, a large sample size of "public" always catches more bugs than a select group. So invariably (especially with all the people playing / you-tubing it) There will be a few bugs caught after release no matter what.

hell, there's been some glitches around since its creation which weren't noticed / fixed till alpha 12  as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if this continued.

Emergent gameplay means Emergent glitches =) Thats just the way it works unfortunately. And rimworld has a LOT of emergent gameplay, so the possibilities for glitches are massive. Even though testing before release gets a majority, theres always one or 2 small details that get though, but hopefully never gamebreaking or obvious.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: humblebundle on April 02, 2016, 05:04:04 PM
I think the only thing they are currently doing is fixing, balancing seems done, no idea, but it is my guess.

Quote from: mumblemumble on April 02, 2016, 02:54:15 PM
hell, there's been some glitches around since its creation which weren't noticed / fixed till alpha 12  as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if this continued.
For example? I would like to know, maybe some bugs are not easy to fix.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: mumblemumble on April 02, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
Well alright, heres one in 12 and under that I only noticed / reported in the last few months....

Projectiles can go through walls if within the "miss" area.

To test, fire a mini-gun at a 1 tile thin wall with several pawns behind it. You will notice some pawns get hit, because the walls do not actually block projectiles if they miss and go further than the target

This was around for 12 alphas, and nobody noticed.... Or at very least, they didn't report it if they did.

ALSO, ease of fixing isn't the issue so much as theres SO many possibilities for glitches / unintended effects, because the game is so deep, complex, with so many features, that these things need to be discovered first. If they aren't discovered, they cant be reported, and obviously cannot be fixed
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Tynan on April 02, 2016, 10:30:03 PM
Every alpha we fix a bunch of issues that have been around for years.

With a game of this complexity, it's amazing the number of issues that can hide out for years, even with thousands of players, before being brought to light.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: KillTyrant on April 03, 2016, 01:50:43 AM
I clicked the link provided and I have a weird question

New chronic diseases: Carinoma, asthma, hearing loss

Is that suppose to be Carcinoma as in cancer? Or is there something specifically called "Carinoma". Im not trying to be a grammar nazi or anything, Im just curious is all.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: anonymous456 on April 03, 2016, 01:53:57 AM
I mean the chances are like 99.99% it's supposed to be Carcinoma, but maybe it's some new kind of genetic disease caused by space radiation that just sounds almost exactly like this existing word.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: KillTyrant on April 03, 2016, 02:01:05 AM
In that list I noticed alot of "im going to ruin your colony"-esque entries. Maybe Carinoma is someone being obsessed with cars to the point of being debilitated and that the only time they are happy is when one of those trade caravans come around with their wagons and such. Maybe? :P
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: harpo99999 on April 03, 2016, 02:26:53 AM
I did a quick google of the 'carinoma' and it appears to be related to worms (maybe related to dune's worms or they might just be similar to the tremors worms, (or in really benign form the parasite worms that allready 'infect' most species)
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: AllenWL on April 03, 2016, 03:03:20 AM
Speaking of noticed bugs, will A13 have pets that actually nuzzle and minified furniture that is actually sellable?
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Coenmcj on April 03, 2016, 03:16:01 AM
Uh, the pets already nuzzle, if somewhat uncommonly, if they're not happening to you, that's a bug.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: KillTyrant on April 03, 2016, 03:33:36 AM
Quote from: harpo99999 on April 03, 2016, 02:26:53 AM
I did a quick google of the 'carinoma' and it appears to be related to worms (maybe related to dune's worms or they might just be similar to the tremors worms, (or in really benign form the parasite worms that allready 'infect' most species)

I did a "quick" google search as well. I looked over the first 10 pages of query and all I got was Carcinoma. Would you mind linking me your find?
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: JonoRig on April 03, 2016, 04:01:35 AM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15230962

It's species name of a worm according to this paper
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: KillTyrant on April 03, 2016, 04:18:58 AM
Interesting. Im reading the WHO pfd on it.
http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/41544/1/WHO_TRS_849_%28part1%29.pdf

It would appear to be caught via ill-prepared food but one of the vectors seems to be from aquatic animals.... Fishing confirmed?
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: anonymous456 on April 03, 2016, 05:10:51 AM
Interesting. It would be better if I'd stop assuming so much things without checking first. Still, I kinda hoped we would get cancer in Rimworld
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: ecirp on April 03, 2016, 05:47:16 AM
Quote from: IgorKeefe on April 03, 2016, 05:10:51 AM
Still, I kinda hoped we would get cancer in Rimworld
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/53744703.jpg)
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Headshotkill on April 03, 2016, 06:18:42 AM
CARINOMA WAS A TYPO IN THE LATEST BLOG POST, TWO BLOG POSTS EARLIER IT SAIS CARCINOMA WHICH CAN AFFECT ANY BODY PART. YES WE SHALL HAVE CANCER IN RIMWORLD.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: anonymous456 on April 03, 2016, 06:20:46 AM
sweet
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: JonoRig on April 03, 2016, 07:22:32 AM
Oh, i excepted it to be cancer, i just wanted to further the discussion on what a carinoma was :D
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: ecirp on April 03, 2016, 07:51:51 AM
Cool!!!!!!!!111one
Hopefully any colonist can get cancer in the head and you can do nothing against it and all of them die painfully and screaming all the time because of the fucking pain.
And don't forget to put chemotherapy in it and raping womans, sodomy and colonists who shit and if there is no food, they eat the shit to survive.

i hope someone did a mod without this stupid "feature", sickos.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: anonymous456 on April 03, 2016, 08:25:32 AM
If you have such a strong opinion about this, do you even have fun playing the game at all? There's cannibalism, dismemberment, horrible forms of dying, etc....
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Klitri on April 03, 2016, 08:37:05 AM
Relax, it's a game, cancer exists, it sucks, just face the reality of it, it's a game we're playing. Nobodies forcing you to play either.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: TheVoidDragon on April 03, 2016, 09:36:25 AM
Quote from: ecirp on April 03, 2016, 07:51:51 AM
i hope someone did a mod without this stupid "feature", sickos.

I don't know how you can enjoy the game when disease is already something that can happen in-game. This isn't really any worse than any of the other things that can happen to your characters.

This sort of thing is clearly something Tynan wants in the game.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: AllenWL on April 03, 2016, 09:53:48 AM
Quote from: Coenmcj on April 03, 2016, 03:16:01 AM
Uh, the pets already nuzzle, if somewhat uncommonly, if they're not happening to you, that's a bug.
By 'somewhat uncommon' exactly how uncommon are we talking here? Maybe I should try to get more dogs...
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Limdood on April 03, 2016, 10:22:59 AM
"uncommon" really means in this case that it doesn't happen at all.  I recall reading that animals COULD nuzzle, but that the code was glitched in such a way that they did not nuzzle because some check in their code looked for colonists doing something (or not doing something) that was never, or almost never true.

There were a couple instances found of an animal rarely doing a cuddle, but it was more a case of the rimworld stars aligning than a simple instance of it being "uncommon"
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: KillTyrant on April 03, 2016, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: Headshotkill on April 03, 2016, 06:18:42 AM
CARINOMA WAS A TYPO IN THE LATEST BLOG POST, TWO BLOG POSTS EARLIER IT  SAIS CARCINOMA WHICH CAN AFFECT ANY BODY PART. YES WE SHALL HAVE CANCER IN RIMWORLD.

I almost find it funny that in your saying that it was announced as a typo, you typo'd. Type-ception. Either way, I still liked the rabbit hole we got into within a few posts. 
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Coenmcj on April 03, 2016, 11:49:47 PM
Quote from: Limdood on April 03, 2016, 10:22:59 AM
"uncommon" really means in this case that it doesn't happen at all.  I recall reading that animals COULD nuzzle, but that the code was glitched in such a way that they did not nuzzle because some check in their code looked for colonists doing something (or not doing something) that was never, or almost never true.

There were a couple instances found of an animal rarely doing a cuddle, but it was more a case of the rimworld stars aligning than a simple instance of it being "uncommon"
One of those instances where RNG can be a real bitch. I've had it happen a handful of times, some people haven't. I guess you're just one of those others. :)
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: AllenWL on April 04, 2016, 03:51:10 AM
Quote from: Coenmcj on April 03, 2016, 11:49:47 PM
Quote from: Limdood on April 03, 2016, 10:22:59 AM
"uncommon" really means in this case that it doesn't happen at all.  I recall reading that animals COULD nuzzle, but that the code was glitched in such a way that they did not nuzzle because some check in their code looked for colonists doing something (or not doing something) that was never, or almost never true.

There were a couple instances found of an animal rarely doing a cuddle, but it was more a case of the rimworld stars aligning than a simple instance of it being "uncommon"
One of those instances where RNG can be a real bitch. I've had it happen a handful of times, some people haven't. I guess you're just one of those others. :)
I personally think nuzzling should be a common event. At least for animals who's wildness is very low.

I once had around 7 huskies and not a single colonist was nuzzled for the entire time(so, a year or two[or three])
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Coenmcj on April 04, 2016, 05:40:50 AM
Jeez, that seems bad. RNG was not favouring you at all.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: Mossy piglet on April 04, 2016, 10:09:12 AM
On the topic of carcinoma and carinoma, I noticed this looking at the features post for the first time, but it looks fixed to me, so this must have been edited.
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: ecirp on April 04, 2016, 01:08:53 PM
Quote from: IgorKeefe on April 03, 2016, 08:25:32 AM
If you have such a strong opinion about this, do you even have fun playing the game at all? There's cannibalism, dismemberment, horrible forms of dying, etc....
are you kids serious? just because i don't want cancer in rimworld i would not enjoy the game?
of course i can enjoy the game, what a foolish question...but i expect comments that.
i think you don't get the point.
the big difference is, you can prevent cannibalism and cure the other diseases, but you are totaly helpless same as in real life against cancer.
i lost a lot of friends because of cancer, it would be painful and not fun if the game has cancer...did you lost someone about cannibalism or malaria? i don't think so...
cancer is not really curable, specially if it is in the brain or other specific parts.
how would it increase the fun with the game if your pawn get braincancer and die?


Quote from: TheVoidDragon on April 03, 2016, 09:36:25 AM
I don't know how you can enjoy the game when disease is already something that can happen in-game. This isn't really any worse than any of the other things that can happen to your characters.

This sort of thing is clearly something Tynan wants in the game.
are you kids serious? just because i don't want cancer in rimworld i would not enjoy the game?
of course i can enjoy the game, what a foolish question...
Oh boy, the difference between these diseases which are already in Rimworld and cancer is that you can't really heal cancer...and i don't think Tynan will put chemotherapy into the game or will he?


Quote from: Klitri on April 03, 2016, 08:37:05 AM
Relax, it's a game, cancer exists, it sucks, just face the reality of it, it's a game we're playing. Nobodies forcing you to play either.
Exactly it is a game!
Aids, peeing, pooping, menstruation, cancer in all forms, cardiac infarction and many more are also reality. also woman and men scream because of the pain (cutting, disease) but would you like that ingame? Yes? Hearing them screaming because of the pain? I don't want it and i think all the other rimworld player too, because that would be disgusting and annoying.


A game is for entertainment, i don't know you guys, but if you think it is entertainment to get cancer, then i hope you will get it, ingame of course. But I do not want it and it is my opinion! Get that in your heads! I will enjoy the game, but without cancer...
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: anonymous456 on April 04, 2016, 01:49:00 PM
First off, I'm sorry that you lost someone close to cancer. There's no debate that cancer sucks, it must be horrible if someone close to you gets a diagnosis like this. I don't pretend to know about it, I never had that happen to me.

But what you are saying is that the game should not contain a negative thing because "it is for entertainment". Isn't that like saying a movie or a book should never be about cancer because movies and books are for entertainment? A medium does in my opinion not dictate the content.

Yes, lots of horrible things are not in Rimworld, or things that some may find disgusting, like the things you mentioned. However, consider that currently permanent brain damage can occur if a colonist gets shot in the head. Colonists can die a horrible death at the hand of raiders, and these events are not always preventable. The game tries to mirror reality in a few chosen aspects, and not only the positive things.

Are you familiar with the show "Breaking Bad"? A teacher and family man is diagnosed with cancer. The show is considered solid entertainment by many. It is dramatic, not at least because it doesn't omit: It shows how horrible the disease is, it tries to depict reality as it is without lying, the struggle of the man and those around him. Should a disease so horrible simply be never talked about again, considered a taboo simply to remind nobody about what is true and real? What could happen to anybody of us? It isn't going away because of that.

That said, I'm sure if the option doesn't exist, someone will create a mod for 100% effective treatment of cancer. We are talking about a story in the year 5500 after all, certainly this is possible.

Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: mumblemumble on April 04, 2016, 02:01:56 PM
Cancer can be cured,  and has,  but western medicine is fucked up.  If you address off balance ph issues,  cancer can go away on its own, without surgery. Sadly western medicine denies this..

Because of this,  i often chuckle that herbal medicine is worse than standard medicine... Ah well.

But, i hope cancer,  if indeed a thing now,  can be cured with a good diet / rest,  because people can do that in reality, avoiding processed foods,  drinks, smokes,  pollutants, ect. 
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: KillTyrant on April 07, 2016, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: mumblemumble on April 04, 2016, 02:01:56 PM
Cancer can be cured,  and has,  but western medicine is fucked up.  If you address off balance ph issues,  cancer can go away on its own, without surgery. Sadly western medicine denies this..

Because of this,  i often chuckle that herbal medicine is worse than standard medicine... Ah well.

But, i hope cancer,  if indeed a thing now,  can be cured with a good diet / rest,  because people can do that in reality, avoiding processed foods,  drinks, smokes,  pollutants, ect.

.... I really cant believe I just read that... Do you have sources for this claim or are you just spouting unadulterated BS?
Title: Re: No new updates?
Post by: kandicesspicer on September 02, 2016, 06:11:23 AM
Well that said, cancer can be cured, also the most dangerous diseases can be cured in one way or the other. In women too, the problem of menstruation pain can be cured by simply using menstrual cups, as suggested by this website (http://www.cupissima.com), and which can be sustainable too. Similarly, peeing, popping, AIDS can also diagnosed in some way.