Any Idea when this will be available on steam?
"When it's done (tm) "
I believe Tynan commented that when he feels enough stable content is finished he will look into pushing it on Steam, but as releasing it on there too early would create bad impressions it would bring more harm than good.
Not sure if there are any numbers to back it up, but I believe the concept of early access is not working out so well on Steam.
Quote from: Pirx Danford on July 16, 2014, 05:17:29 AM
I believe Tynan commented that when he feels enough stable content is finished he will look into pushing it on Steam, but as releasing it on there too early would create bad impressions it would bring more harm than good.
Not sure if there are any numbers to back it up, but I believe the concept of early access is not working out so well on Steam.
I don't like the concept of early access but I think they're doing really well with it
90% of the games I have on my wishlist / get to buy / see on sale are all early access. So there's definately money being made, they're really really in your face all the time and people often buy what's on their face =P
Updates would also be seemless which is a big bonus.
I am also waiting on Steam release. I understand wanting to have a lot of content as releasing on steam will bring in a lot of new ppl. I prefer to not use paypal and I like having all my games in one place. (Im not worried about Steam yanking all my games for DRM reasons) Until then its waiting and watching LPs on youtube. I am hoping to see Rimworld on Steam in 2014. We shall see though.
Cheers
Quote from: TKS on July 16, 2014, 09:16:38 AM
Updates would also be seemless which is a big bonus.
Steam provides no good automatic way to allow playing on older versions. Since our updates consistently break save compatibility (because they're usually large changes to the structure of the game and/or adding and removing game objects), this would mean your saves would just break and you'd have no way to prevent it or go back and finish them.
It's not necessarily the best system for a game in this stage of development.
So there's that, plus I want the game to be good and ready quality-wise for the larger Steam audience. There's no date on Steam release. Though we are looking at making an auto-updater that would take the pain out of updating manually, and handle the ability to play older versions with your older saves if you wish.
Quote from: Tynan on July 16, 2014, 04:10:25 PM
Steam provides no good automatic way to allow playing on older versions.
This is my biggest complaint with Steam, even with a finished non-early-access game. I know the selling point is seamless updating and the fact that developers can "push" their players to a certain version to simplify support to a certain degree. That's all well and good, but there should be an override where more advanced/curious players can still access the older versions.
I was kind of shocked when I found out they don't support version selection at all.
Its not supported but what you can do is save all the game files in another location (so steam wont update those files) and then launch the "old" version .exe from that location. Its not ideal at all but I have used it for some games.
Quote from: ccrunner17 on July 16, 2014, 04:46:09 PM
Its not supported but what you can do is save all the game files in another location (so steam wont update those files) and then launch the "old" version .exe from that location. Its not ideal at all but I have used it for some games.
Indeed, but I can't ask the great bulk of players to do that.
For me it doesn't bother me losing games as new versions come out, I went through it with starbound,wasteland 2 starpoint gemini 2 beast of prey etc etc, I enjoy starting new games as new features are released,I mean isn't that the point of early release is to get the most ppl playing and polling people for changes and bugs,and I think that's where releasing on steam helps as it draws in a huge player base. For me I HATE paypal, so as much as I want this game I can wait until it's released on steam. But keep up the great work!
I'm looking at getting another payment solution online actually, so hopefully that'll be live within a few days. There are ways besides Steam and PayPal!
Tynan if you had another way besides paypal I'd buy the game in a second flat!
bitcoin?
I will buy instantly if there is a way to avoid pay pal :)
Hmmmm bit coin could work lol
Put the cash in a nondescript briefcase. Bring the briefcase to your nearest park. A Ludeon agent will approach you. Exchange the briefcase with a disc containing the game. Go home and play. No cops.
:D
Quote from: StorymasterQ on July 17, 2014, 09:00:03 PM
Put the cash in a nondescript briefcase. Bring the briefcase to your nearest park. A Ludeon agent will approach you. Exchange the briefcase with a disc containing the game. Go home and play. No cops.
:D
We're never so unprofessional. You leave the briefcase, walk halfway around the block, and find the disc under a trashcan with a chalk mark on it.
I've seen some games (Europa Universalis IV comes to mind) where the 'betas' tab lets you pick from older versions as well - that said, I have no idea how it works.
Quote from: DeltaV on July 17, 2014, 09:41:28 PM
I've seen some games (Europa Universalis IV comes to mind) where the 'betas' tab lets you pick from older versions as well - that said, I have no idea how it works.
That's the way we'd have to do it, but that's a bit of a hack.
Quote from: Tynan on July 17, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: StorymasterQ on July 17, 2014, 09:00:03 PM
Put the cash in a nondescript briefcase. Bring the briefcase to your nearest park. A Ludeon agent will approach you. Exchange the briefcase with a disc containing the game. Go home and play. No cops.
:D
We're never so unprofessional. You leave the briefcase, walk halfway around the block, and find the disc under a trashcan with a chalk mark on it.
I'm certainly glad our wondrous developer has a good sense of humor, would be a much duller forum without a sense of humor from our one and only "transcendent" :P
Quote from: Ender on July 18, 2014, 03:13:26 AM
Quote from: Tynan on July 17, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: StorymasterQ on July 17, 2014, 09:00:03 PM
Put the cash in a nondescript briefcase. Bring the briefcase to your nearest park. A Ludeon agent will approach you. Exchange the briefcase with a disc containing the game. Go home and play. No cops.
:D
We're never so unprofessional. You leave the briefcase, walk halfway around the block, and find the disc under a trashcan with a chalk mark on it.
I'm certainly glad our wondrous developer has a good sense of humor, would be a much duller forum without a sense of humor from our one and only "transcendent" :P
What do you mean humor? That's how I got
my copy of Rimworld :D
I bought it anyway and It is awesome well done!! I'm glad I didn't try and wait for a steam release. I was a bit hesitant because all the other "work in progress" games I've bought have given me a lot of problems lock ups or just not complete enough and the game doesn't work properly at all! Very Happy that this was not the case! I've had no problems other than pirate attacks robot attacks and trying to arrest all visitors and being attacked and getting all my colonist killed or kidnapped lol! anyway to get back a kidnapped colonist? I have one colonist left out of 5 and 1 prisoner! lol!
PS I've been recommending it to all my gaming friends lol!
Could someone explain why so many people hate paypal? I never had any issues with it so I'm curious.
i have nothing against paypal, but i was waiting for the steam release. it promises release this year, but i'm not too sure on it, the steam page hasn't been updated since alpha 2
moding "native" part of game to mod assembly will allow version selection...
simply game will have mods "core_A1" "core_A2" and soo on with all native part moved to mod stored assemblyes.
this will greatly increase game size but will allow to select version.
implementing this possible by coding something like reinstrumentation classloader (class loader that able to alter byte[] of class before class is defined)
@Dr.Z I can only answer for myself- I have enough passwords and accounts with every internet service that I need without adding extras that are on top of having stuff that already does the same thing.
However, rimworld was well worth steppibg out of my comfort zone. No regrets here. If I had the choice I would have chosen steam though
I just have to say that I'm a finicky consumer, and I have been happy purchasing this as it is. The fact that you get the game through multiple alphas makes it even more playable for me since the game is constantly changing and bringing new life to it.
I doubt the vast majority of people who purchase it would have any qualms with the game on Steam.
Quote from: Tynan on July 16, 2014, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: TKS on July 16, 2014, 09:16:38 AM
Updates would also be seemless which is a big bonus.
Steam provides no good automatic way to allow playing on older versions. Since our updates consistently break save compatibility (because they're usually large changes to the structure of the game and/or adding and removing game objects), this would mean your saves would just break and you'd have no way to prevent it or go back and finish them.
It's not necessarily the best system for a game in this stage of development.
So there's that, plus I want the game to be good and ready quality-wise for the larger Steam audience. There's no date on Steam release. Though we are looking at making an auto-updater that would take the pain out of updating manually, and handle the ability to play older versions with your older saves if you wish.
I don't know if this works since I have never used this feature, but if you go to your game library and right-click the game (this is on a Windows Steam client), and select "Properties," you will get to a screen with multiple tabs. One of the tabs is titled "UPDATES." There is a drop-down selector there which (theoretically, if it behaves as advertised) allows you to turn off automatic updates for the game. That's not quite the same as picking any older version, but it would work if you are heavily invested in one particular save.
I think the issue is that while that's possible, Tynan would have to explain that to all his players. It may seem easy enough, but once you factor in language barriers and people just plain missing the announcement etc., Tynan may find himself inundated with confused and angry players complaining about their saves.
Yeah, _aB_ pretty much covers it right there.
Plus at the end of the day, a games community forums are full of people who are trying to improve the game and increase the fanbase/support by word and mouth ect.
Steam being mainstream will always have "trolls" who just comment on a game without even looking at a picture of it in an attempt to deter future customers or just infuriate people that they avoid the games.
Seen it happen a fair bit on Project Zomboid
The trolling comes with the territory, I guess. It all depends if it explicitly says the game is still in development, which some games in steam fail to properly mention.
Also, Steam does support version selection. A number of games that are still under heavy development have old versions still there so players can choose them. Players just have to right click the game, select BETAS and choose the available versions. Steam then "reinstalls" the game in the chosen version.
All registration forms on all forums and websites ought/should have a check box that registrars can choose:
[ ] I'm a troll.
Makes it easier for the rest of the community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_bit
Quote from: Chiko on July 31, 2014, 09:19:18 PM
Also, Steam does support version selection. A number of games that are still under heavy development have old versions still there so players can choose them. Players just have to right click the game, select BETAS and choose the available versions. Steam then "reinstalls" the game in the chosen version.
Indeed, but that still suffers from the problem alphaBeta shown.
I would love to buy this game but i dont have paypal i have ideal please put this game on steam so i can buy it too
Quote from: username: on August 12, 2014, 05:53:17 AM
I would love to buy this game but i dont have paypal i have ideal please put this game on steam so i can buy it too
You can buy without PayPal; use Stripe instead.
Quote from: _alphaBeta_ on July 31, 2014, 01:01:26 PM
I think the issue is that while that's possible, Tynan would have to explain that to all his players. It may seem easy enough, but once you factor in language barriers and people just plain missing the announcement etc., Tynan may find himself inundated with confused and angry players complaining about their saves.
(http://i.imgur.com/4tDGUGu.png)
something like this?
You'd be surprised how many people wouldn't understand even this, and still hold the developer accountable.
im exited for this on steam but it would be better if there was more content. don't need people freaking out about another early access
person who buys without researching: Gaaaah I paid 30 bucks to support the game! that's so stoopid tootalii not warth it! lets wite a horrible
weview!!
I personally love the game so far. it could almost be a full game to me already but maybe I just have low expectations :D
on the subject of steam, Might be worth TY updating the greenlight page, it's still on alpha 2 :D
Quote from: fernbhoy on August 13, 2014, 06:10:02 PM
on the subject of steam, Might be worth TY updating the greenlight page, it's still on alpha 2 :D
Oh my, that is... a fair point.
Since this seems to have the most up-to-date information regarding Steam, I don't think it'd be a bad idea to post here. One alternative I can think of is making Steam launch a launcher that allows you to select a build or asks if you want to update with a disclaimer.
Optimally I'd just prefer you release it into Early Access with a disclaimer saying their saves will probably break, making an announcement explaining how they can prevent that (aka disabling updates) in the Steam Discussions, and ignoring incompetent people that fail to read and understand Early Access.
Ignoring the incompetent people is easy for someone who only has 20 or 30 they have to deal with on a regular basis. But with such a wide audience as Steam would provide, Tynan would have to deal with thousands of those types of people on a regular basis. It would get to the point where he would need to hire someone just to wade through all the emails to find the ones which have actual helpful critiques or bug reports. It is far better to have a dedicated community that is familiar with how the early stages work so they can provide a more comprehensive feedback system that allows him to focus on fixing issues as they come up and add in the features that the players all universally agree they want. Smaller amounts of higher quality feedback is ideal for a small development company in almost every way. The only benefit I could see for Tynan putting this on Steam so early is he could raise more funds quicker potentially to put into the game. But the risks outweigh the rewards.
Quote from: Tynan on August 12, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: username: on August 12, 2014, 05:53:17 AM
I would love to buy this game but i dont have paypal i have ideal please put this game on steam so i can buy it too
You can buy without PayPal; use Stripe instead.
I have seen a lot of posts of people not wanting to use paypal or stripe to pay and would say "Would buy straight away on steam"
Maybe I'm missing the reason but I just want to point out that you can pay with your normal debit/credit that I assume you use for steam without having a paypal account , there is just an option after the 1st paypal page that allows you to do just that without logging into paypal. After using your details you are normally forwarded to your banks page that confirms payment. Just wanted to clear that up , would be a shame if people arn't buying the game just because they think they HAVE to have a paypal account.
EDIT: 1st post :)
As the title says, this is only my second post to these forums, but I want to formally BEG you to not go with Early access on Steam. I have MANY EA games and almost 90% of the feedback you get there will be of the "Dis game suk" variety. And that's not even taking into account the huge amount of screaming you'll receive over the $30 price tag if you don't reduce it for early access. I'm frankly surprised that ANY game makes it out of early access on Steam simply due to the vast amount of screaming and crying that pours into their "feedback" forums.
My suggestion would be to use Steam as an auto-updating service (until it's ready to release) as Stonehearth.net (http://stonehearth.net) does. In fact I learned about Rimworld through their excellent forums.
That is a good point about Stonehearth. They are doing exactly that.
But I don't really know the details of what gets paid to Steam or how Tynan would go about doing it.
On an aside I wonder when we will start referring to Ludeon Studios instead of Tynan; Ludeon Studios would have enter some manner of contract with Steam (Valve) in order to get the game on there.
Whole heartedly and repeatedly agreed that this should not go on 'Early Access'. As an added aside just realised that EA is a rather cursed acronym at the moment.
Although Prison Architect are having a great time of it on Early Access and I think their game is doing well and their pricing scheme is in the same vain as RimWorld.
Ultimately, it is the decision of Ludeon Studios to decide when and how RimWorld makes its way to Steam.
What I'm interesting in would be, how Prison Architect fares when they decide to go and officially release their game. As it already is on steam early access I think they will have a problem to generate a release hype.
I don't think they will reach a bigger audience once released then now in the early access stage. But maybe they don't want that and are happy with the income from now. I don't know. And we'll see how it goes..
I too agree that it shouldn't go to steam early access. Souly for the amount of trolls it generates. Going on some of the forums used by early access games *cough* rust *cough*, makes me not want to play them. All it is are trolls degrading one another. I was very pleasantly surprised to come on this forums. I have yet to see a troll post of some one degraded. Lots of help on here and very friendly. Let's keep it that way.
I too think that the Steam Early Access games that make it to full release do have a distinctly uneventful final 'release'. Prison Architect, I think, is garnering its player base during Early Access quite well since the game lends itself to being played before completion, much like RimWorld.
Games that don't do very well in Early Access are the RPG genre or anything with a story. If I see a new game come out on Steam and it says Early Access I give it a glance and if I think it has potential I throw it on my wishlist but I almost always refrain from buying Early Access; By the time the game releases I've lost interest and end up not playing the full experience.
And the forum community here is great. Also helps that the game is not the type of game that attracts said trolls and griefers.
Quote from: Kagemusha on November 03, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
And the forum community here is great. Also helps that the game is not the type of game that attracts said trolls and griefers.
Every game attracts trolls. It's the community that allows or disallows the trolls to flourish. If the community at large just puts up with the trolls or ignores them then they will proliferate anywhere. But when you have a good community that calls out the trolls and moderators that are willing to do something about it then you get the pleasant environment that exists on this forum.
Quote from: Igabod on November 03, 2014, 09:48:20 PM
Quote from: Kagemusha on November 03, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
And the forum community here is great. Also helps that the game is not the type of game that attracts said trolls and griefers.
Every game attracts trolls.
This is true. Trolls will be trolls after all.
I would agree with you that the community in general is, and the moderators are, topnotch.
Quote from: Kagemusha on November 03, 2014, 11:41:27 PM
This is true. Trolls will be trolls after all.
I would agree with you that the community in general is, and the moderators are, topnotch.
All said and done, the community here is one of the things I'm most proud of. Even my support email requests are really nice. With near-50,000 sales I've only had a handful of people be really mean to me. Kind of amazing considering what you hear out there. I chalk it up to this being the kind of game that attracts rational interested thinkers instead of more impulsive types. The DF forums are really nice too, likely for the same reason.
Quote from: Tynan on November 04, 2014, 01:08:08 AM
Quote from: Kagemusha on November 03, 2014, 11:41:27 PM
This is true. Trolls will be trolls after all.
I would agree with you that the community in general is, and the moderators are, topnotch.
All said and done, the community here is one of the things I'm most proud of. Even my support email requests are really nice. With near-50,000 sales I've only had a handful of people be really mean to me. Kind of amazing considering what you hear out there. I chalk it up to this being the kind of game that attracts rational interested thinkers instead of more impulsive types. The DF forums are really nice too, likely for the same reason.
Yes. The secret to a great forum community is to make a game easy enough for people to play but complicated enough so that idiots won't try it.
Quote from: StorymasterQ on November 04, 2014, 03:35:53 AM
Quote from: Tynan on November 04, 2014, 01:08:08 AM
Quote from: Kagemusha on November 03, 2014, 11:41:27 PM
This is true. Trolls will be trolls after all.
I would agree with you that the community in general is, and the moderators are, topnotch.
All said and done, the community here is one of the things I'm most proud of. Even my support email requests are really nice. With near-50,000 sales I've only had a handful of people be really mean to me. Kind of amazing considering what you hear out there. I chalk it up to this being the kind of game that attracts rational interested thinkers instead of more impulsive types. The DF forums are really nice too, likely for the same reason.
Yes. The secret to a great forum community is to make a game easy enough for people to play but complicated enough so that idiots won't try it.
I like to call this "increasing the signal-to-noise ratio" of the community. In my opinion, it's important to do this, because then it's easier to find more useful/relevant information rather than just "how to i paly gam??". The *nix community is a great example of a community with a high signal-to-noise ratio, since many people don't know what bash, mailing lists, or crontabs are.
I have a question. is there a planned release date or are you waiting on steam? (or other) cause this game is great and I wouldn't know what to think if steam doesn't want it now. seriously I checked green light and they released a game on steam called GRASS SIMULATOR. your a cow who walks in a field and shoots targets.
Quote from: Splinterbee on December 05, 2014, 08:45:47 PM
I have a question. is there a planned release date or are you waiting on steam? (or other) cause this game is great and I wouldn't know what to think if steam doesn't want it now. seriously I checked green light and they released a game on steam called GRASS SIMULATOR. your a cow who walks in a field and shoots targets.
If you take a look at the block of text below you will find your answer.
Quote from: Tynan on July 16, 2014, 04:10:25 PM
Steam provides no good automatic way to allow playing on older versions. Since our updates consistently break save compatibility (because they're usually large changes to the structure of the game and/or adding and removing game objects), this would mean your saves would just break and you'd have no way to prevent it or go back and finish them.
It's not necessarily the best system for a game in this stage of development.
So there's that, plus I want the game to be good and ready quality-wise for the larger Steam audience. There's no date on Steam release. Though we are looking at making an auto-updater that would take the pain out of updating manually, and handle the ability to play older versions with your older saves if you wish.
All you have to do is read a little down the first page at the developers comments to find the answers to basic stuff. Not complaining per-se, just do a little research before asking redundant questions. :)
Quote from: Psyclops on December 09, 2014, 05:59:26 AM
Quote from: Splinterbee on December 05, 2014, 08:45:47 PM
I have a question. is there a planned release date or are you waiting on steam? (or other) cause this game is great and I wouldn't know what to think if steam doesn't want it now. seriously I checked green light and they released a game on steam called GRASS SIMULATOR. your a cow who walks in a field and shoots targets.
If you take a look at the block of text below you will find your answer.
Quote from: Tynan on July 16, 2014, 04:10:25 PM
Steam provides no good automatic way to allow playing on older versions. Since our updates consistently break save compatibility (because they're usually large changes to the structure of the game and/or adding and removing game objects), this would mean your saves would just break and you'd have no way to prevent it or go back and finish them.
It's not necessarily the best system for a game in this stage of development.
So there's that, plus I want the game to be good and ready quality-wise for the larger Steam audience. There's no date on Steam release. Though we are looking at making an auto-updater that would take the pain out of updating manually, and handle the ability to play older versions with your older saves if you wish.
All you have to do is read a little down the first page at the developers comments to find the answers to basic stuff. Not complaining per-se, just do a little research before asking redundant questions. :)
Not really. You can use the beta option pretty easily to have versions on steam. ProjectZomboid use it to run betas. I cant remember any names, but there are a few that just use it for old versions. Its just Right Click Game>Properties>Beta>Select version from the drop down list. Its not a complex task, and the information could easily be added to the store page, the forums or anywhere else vaguely relevant.
Quote from: Mikhail Reign on December 09, 2014, 07:14:55 AM
Not really. You can use the beta option pretty easily to have versions on steam. ProjectZomboid use it to run betas. I cant remember any names, but there are a few that just use it for old versions. Its just Right Click Game>Properties>Beta>Select version from the drop down list. Its not a complex task, and the information could easily be added to the store page, the forums or anywhere else vaguely relevant.
Yep, it couldn't be any easier. Don't like the new alpha of 7 Days to Die, do the above and you can choose from 8 or 9 previous alphas. Turn off automatic updates and you can stay on any version you like. I do wish Steam would revamp their dated UI though, seriously in need of a tabbed interface instead of one page at a time.
Quote from: Mikhail Reign on December 09, 2014, 07:14:55 AM
Not really. You can use the beta option pretty easily to have versions on steam. ProjectZomboid use it to run betas. I cant remember any names, but there are a few that just use it for old versions. Its just Right Click Game>Properties>Beta>Select version from the drop down list. Its not a complex task, and the information could easily be added to the store page, the forums or anywhere else vaguely relevant.
Funny enough this route has already been suggested and addressed, as you can see on the second page of this topic! ;)
Quote from: Tynan on July 17, 2014, 10:22:25 PM
Quote from: DeltaV on July 17, 2014, 09:41:28 PM
I've seen some games (Europa Universalis IV comes to mind) where the 'betas' tab lets you pick from older versions as well - that said, I have no idea how it works.
That's the way we'd have to do it, but that's a bit of a hack.
Quote from: Psyclops on December 09, 2014, 11:53:57 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Reign on December 09, 2014, 07:14:55 AM
Not really. You can use the beta option pretty easily to have versions on steam. ProjectZomboid use it to run betas. I cant remember any names, but there are a few that just use it for old versions. Its just Right Click Game>Properties>Beta>Select version from the drop down list. Its not a complex task, and the information could easily be added to the store page, the forums or anywhere else vaguely relevant.
Funny enough this route has already been suggested and addressed, as you can see on the second page of this topic! ;)
Quote from: Tynan on July 17, 2014, 10:22:25 PM
Quote from: DeltaV on July 17, 2014, 09:41:28 PM
I've seen some games (Europa Universalis IV comes to mind) where the 'betas' tab lets you pick from older versions as well - that said, I have no idea how it works.
That's the way we'd have to do it, but that's a bit of a hack.
Yes, but I don't think it's really a hack, Endless Legend uses the beta tab for an alternative 32bit version of the game versus the 64bit version that installs by default. I think if Steam changed the name of the tab from Beta to Alternate Versions, it would be the same thing but feel less like a hack. I'm assuming that the real reason we're waiting, is for the 1.0 release rather than an early access release which is probably not a bad idea due the harsh treatment early access games usually suffer.
Yeah other then the tab being called beta instead of alternative version, it is the exact function that is required. Hell it's implied then keeping 4 or 5 copies of the game so I can play different versions.
Other than for mod compatibility, why would you want to play older alternative versions of an alpha game, though?
Quote from: StorymasterQ on December 10, 2014, 03:57:47 AM
Other than for mod compatibility, why would you want to play older alternative versions of an alpha game, though?
For nostalgia value?
Quote from: StorymasterQ on December 10, 2014, 03:57:47 AM
Other than for mod compatibility, why would you want to play older alternative versions of an alpha game, though?
So you can play your saved games that the new version is no longer compatible with.
Quote from: StorymasterQ on December 10, 2014, 03:57:47 AM
Other than for mod compatibility, why would you want to play older alternative versions of an alpha game, though?
The main issue is situations where steam auto-updates, but you're right in the middle of a year long game, and suddenly your save is irretrievably gone.
And what with Steam having no explicit feature to disable auto-updating anymore, the average user doesn't know how to work around the system by setting the update schedule to hours that they are never on, not to mention that that particular workaround means that none of your other games would receive updates either.
I'd personally only release this on steam if it were finished, otherwise it just comes across as "another early access PoS" - god knows there are enough of them..
Quote from: thefinn on December 10, 2014, 05:01:47 PM
I'd personally only release this on steam if it were finished, otherwise it just comes across as "another early access PoS" - god knows there are enough of them..
This ^^
Think about it this way, currently having the game limited to this site provides many advantages to take into consideration.
1. This site is the only way you can purchase the game, this means that 100% of the profits, sales, marketing, etc is handled by Tynan and word-of-mouth, arguably the best marketing tool there is, especially because it's free. (You go on an awesome vacation you're gonna tell your friends about it, and they're gonna go and tell
their friends about it, and so on. Same with this game.)
2. Because it's not on a massive platform like Steam there is a limited number of customers who see this game right now and judge it, whether their reviews are fair or not. This also leads to a more tight-knit community and less trolls who are just out to populate the game with bad reviews.
3. This game
is in Alpha, releasing the game as such under "Early Access" not only gives a bad name to the game, but leads to people reviewing the game in it's current state, then possibly never updating their review, leading to a skewed opinion overall. Let's say they base their down-vote on something that gets updated a patch or two later, if they never update that review that's one more review that's negative that doesn't deserve to be there.
Just my *3* cents. :)