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Description:
Disassemble mechanoids to recover undamaged parts of their weapons and turn them into turrets. A great late-game defence against pesky tribal raiders and other mechanoids.

Features:

• Ability to disassemble most mechanoids to recover their weapons to improve the basic turret with better weaponry.
• Ability to train crafting skill at the machining table.

Mod Team:

• ItchyFlea (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=959) - Code

Download:

• Mechanoid Turrets v0.93 (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3758.0;attach=2594)

How to use:

• Research the machining table and defeat a mechanoid.
• Depending on the weapon they used, create a bill on the machining table to disassemble that particular mechanoid. (There are 3 types.)
• You can acquire up to 3 weapons parts per mechanoid depending on your crafting skill.
•    Basic disassembly will provide just 1 part, Advanced will provide 2 and Intricate will provide 3.
• Training works in a similar way. Basic training will give you just 20xp. Advanced will give 80xp and Intricate will give 200xp.
•    Training costs 1 metal, and produces a 1 metal product, effectively making it free.

Notes:

• Special thanks to Haplo for providing .xml code to fix a crafting bug.
• I will maintain & update this until someone offers to take over development. Wish to take over development? Send me a PM. :)

Video:

• A very short (8 second) video demonstrating all 3 turrets: http://youtu.be/iDd4bbo79uQ

Changelog:
v0.93:

• Added Mech Metal and added it to resource cost of Mechanoid Turrets. (You gain it from dead mechs based on crafting skill, like weapon parts.)

v0.91b:

• Fixed a bug. Weapon parts should no longer drop from orbit.

v0.91:

• Changed size from 1x1 to 2x2.

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That was fast! Awesome job Itchy!

Quote from: Evmeister on June 02, 2014, 01:05:25 PM
That was fast! Awesome job Itchy!

As a balance I'd suggest making the bases 2x2...

Bigger guns. I also had an idea of my own I've been considering. Making it so EVERY turret needs a scavenged mechanoid brain to work

I concur with making them 2x2.

I agree, but mainly because I miss the original 2x2 turret, aesthetically speaking

Awesome mod, started up a new game with this mod installed and had about 230 inferno cannons drop from orbit. Intended?

Quote from: Nantlais on June 03, 2014, 06:07:57 AM
Awesome mod, started up a new game with this mod installed and had about 230 inferno cannons drop from orbit. Intended?

Definitely not.

But now that you've got them.... Have fun. :)

Quote from: Nantlais on June 03, 2014, 06:07:57 AM
Awesome mod, started up a new game with this mod installed and had about 230 inferno cannons drop from orbit. Intended?

Yeah....
have fun with that.  :P

Itchy, are you able to delete your poll? Seeing as you're a global moderator. I can't delete my poll on industrial rim.

Suggestion :)
A Mechanized randomly drop of between 0-3 parts.
0 parts: 30%
1 parts: 40%
2 parts: 20%
3 parts: 10%

Quote from: Cala13er on June 03, 2014, 06:46:12 AM
Itchy, are you able to delete your poll? Seeing as you're a global moderator. I can't delete my poll on industrial rim.

There's a button there for it so I assume I can.

Quote from: ItchyFlea on June 03, 2014, 07:09:17 AM

Quote from: Cala13er on June 03, 2014, 06:46:12 AM
Itchy, are you able to delete your poll? Seeing as you're a global moderator. I can't delete my poll on industrial rim.

There's a button there for it so I assume I can.

Well is it alright if I can ask you to remove mine when I need it removing? seeing as I don't get this button.

Oh NO! That was my favourite bug evar hahaha. 250 Chargeblaster parts dropping from orbit :P

Quote from: Evul on June 03, 2014, 07:06:30 AM
Suggestion :)
A Mechanized randomly drop of between 0-3 parts.

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0 parts: 30%
1 parts: 40%
2 parts: 20%
3 parts: 10%

Thats my exact number request too ;)

Quote from: Cala13er on June 03, 2014, 07:58:37 AM
Well is it alright if I can ask you to remove mine when I need it removing? seeing as I don't get this button.

Sure.

Quote from: LuciferNZ on June 03, 2014, 05:44:59 PM

Quote from: Evul on June 03, 2014, 07:06:30 AM
Suggestion :)
A Mechanized randomly drop of between 0-3 parts.

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0 parts: 30%
1 parts: 40%
2 parts: 20%
3 parts: 10%

Thats my exact number request too ;)

I've been giving this some thought, as it's a good idea. Personally I don't like the idea of the parts being dropped on death as I feel that the weapons are physically a part of the mechanoid body and therefore need to be removed via the machining table. Having said that, I can think of an interesting way to implement this while still using the machining table...

Quote from: Evul on June 03, 2014, 07:06:30 AM
Suggestion :)
A Mechanized randomly drop of between 0-3 parts.

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0 parts: 30%
1 parts: 40%
2 parts: 20%
3 parts: 10%
+1 for this

I am just letting you know that the game freezes in 4d if your turret explodes and there are too many near. Game lags out and crashes. I had 2 chain guns next to some improv turrets and the game died.

The parts dropping directly sounds silly and over-powered. Go with the most popular poll option.

If this can be determined by crafting skill, that's awesome.

Experimental Release Download: Mechanoid Turrets v0.92 - Experimental (http://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3758.0;attach=2505)

Changes/Additions:
Ability to train crafting skill at machining table - 3 different levels (Requires 1 metal, produces 1 metal - Effectively this costs nothing)
3 levels of disassembling mechanoids. - Basic (1), Advanced (2), Intricate (3).
Each level produces a certain number of weapon parts.

Known Issues:
Extremely high crafting skill produces more weapon parts than normal. I do not know of any way to fix this.

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To prevent more than one part to be made, you need to make a SkillNeedDef:
In your xml you have this, that needs to be changed to your own skill:
original:

<efficiencySkillNeed>ButcheryMechanoidEfficiency</efficiencySkillNeed>

new:

<efficiencySkillNeed>ButcheryMechanoidPartExtractionEfficiency</efficiencySkillNeed>


Then you need a new SkillNeedDefs/SkillNeeds.xml
In there you do the following:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<SkillNeeds>

<SkillNeedDef Class="SkillNeedDef_BaseBonus">
<defName>ButcheryMechanoidPartExtractionEfficiency</defName>
<skill>Crafting</skill>
<baseFactor>1.0</baseFactor>
<bonusFactor>0.0</bonusFactor>
<description>Produces {0}% the normal amount of parts when extracting.</description>
</SkillNeedDef>

</SkillNeeds>


You can do something similiar for the time it needs.
I've done the same for my weaponsmith workbench. Didn't want to have lvl 20 crafter to get 2 or more weapons out of it ;)

The voting results speak for themselves. The experimental release will be updated with the info Haplo (Thank you Haplo) provided to fix the issue I encountered with crafting, and will be made available shortly. is available for download now. The OP describes the changes made to mechanoid disassembly.

I have a new poll up. This time it's regarding the HP of the Mechanoid turrets.

For future reference, the poll results are in the code box below.

1 part
    - 8 (7%)
2 parts
    - 18 (15.8%)
3 parts
    - 14 (12.3%)
4 parts
    - 8 (7%)
5 parts
    - 4 (3.5%)
6 parts
    - 9 (7.9%)
More than 6 parts. (Post your number)
    - 1 (0.9%)
Should be determined by crafting skill. Max 3 parts.
    - 52 (45.6%)

So along with having at least somewhat more health, I think they should also cost a lot more, since they're so powerful (sorry if they already cost more, haven't played with the updated version yet). Unless the requirement of weapon parts is a fair representation of their increased cost?

Excuse me, that I ask a question here. But when and under what conditions appear Mechanoids? Play, play, and they do not appear ...

Quote from: Tuvka on June 07, 2014, 07:16:32 AM
Excuse me, that I ask a question here. But when and under what conditions appear Mechanoids? Play, play, and they do not appear ...

They are a difficult enemy, so they won't appear until late in the game.

Instead of making a new poll, I'm going to go with what I consider the in between and make the mech turrets have 600HP. To justify this high HP, their construction is going to require 'Mech metal', a resource that can only be acquired by disassembling a mech for it's weapon parts.

A new poll will be up tomorrow once I've done some work on adding 'mech metal' to the mod.

Poll Results for future reference:

How many Hit Points (HP) do you think the mech turrets should have?

Between 50-100
    - 1 (1.4%)
Between 100-150
    - 1 (1.4%)
Between 150-200
    - 1 (1.4%)
Between 200-250
    - 4 (5.5%)
Between 250-300
    - 7 (9.6%)
Between 300-350
    - 7 (9.6%)
Between 350-400
    - 5 (6.8%)
Between 400-450
    - 4 (5.5%)
Between 450-500
    - 20 (27.4%)
Over 500. (Will require a new poll.)
    - 23 (31.5%)

Version 0.93 is now available.

New in this update:

• Mech Turrets HP increased to 600.
• Mech Metal added as a new resource. It is acquired from dead mechanoids when they are disassembled for their weapon parts. It's a variable amount based on crafting skill. Basic: 5 pieces. Advanced: 10 pieces. Intricate: 15 pieces.
• Mech Turrets now require 15 pieces of Mech Metal as part of their construction cost.

Despite what I said yesterday, there will not be a poll regarding the Mech Metal.