Huge problem

Started by LordGoldFish, February 09, 2016, 11:01:46 AM

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LordGoldFish

My freezer isnt working! It is set to 6- but it is still 10 C in there! Heeeelp, my stuffz are spoiling..
LordGoldFish

muffins

Airlocks! They're just door-space-door but they're brilliant at keeping the heat/cold in. Also, the fewer the doors that a room has the less heat/cold leaks out of the room. Make sure that the place that the heat is getting vented to is unroofed or there will be a place right next to your freezer that is hotter than the sun.

LordGoldFish

This is rediculus. The freezer is connected to only 1 door, and over 100 simple meals just spoiled. Is this a bug? Because this is just stupid.
LordGoldFish

PhenomTaker

Can you post a screenshot of your room?
I don't think that it is a bug, your room probably isn't optimal.

Ectoplasm

Might this be heat wave related? It's a real grinder for me too that in heat waves you can't keep food fresh.

muffins

Multiple coolers for a freezer is a must during a heatwave or if the freezer is quite large.

skullywag

Based on size you may not have enough coolers. Whats the outside temp. So many variables here...
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Ectoplasm

#7
Quote from: muffins on February 09, 2016, 11:50:49 AM
Multiple coolers for a freezer is a must during a heatwave or if the freezer is quite large.

It did occur to me that more coolers might be the answer. But regardless of the number or how cold I set them, I could not keep food fresh during a heatwave. Errors like having the cooler the wrong way round (I can't be the only one to of done that!?), not enough coolers, or air locks etc etc weren't the cause. I thought it was 'just rimworld' throwing another curve ball to ruin your day. So I looked at mods - ReheatDist - and started paying attention to temperatures in the duct work. And noticed that during a heatwave pipework only 2 tiles away from the cooler would show a positive temperature value (even though all the coolers were set to maximum, -60°C or there about). To me it was almost like the game was running code during a heatwave that basically said "ha! heatwave, screw you".

I found it so frustrating that I just turned off heatwaves entirely.

I do want to ask if this is the experience of others (to reiterate: During a heatwave, regardless of how many coolers I add, or at what temperature I set them too (either vanilla coolers or those in reheatdist) I can not maintain the freezers temperature). I'm guessing from your post muffins that this is not the case for you? So clearly if others can keep food fresh during a heatwave, the problem lies with my design somewhere, though where I do not know. Because for me adding more coolers made no difference. Let's say you have a 10 tile square freezer, 2 vanilla coolers is enough to hold a steady -3°C, yet adding additional, 3, 4 or 5 coolers made no difference to the freezers temperature during a heatwave, none.

Might it be some sort of tipping point scenario? The game calculates the variables regarding a freezer, knows that to cool a freezer of that size you need X number, so until you reach that critical number, temperatures wont drop lower?

If you guys tell me that it is unequivocally possible to keep a freezer frozen during a heatwave, then I'll re enable them, and just keep on adding coolers.. I have to say in my little 10x10 tile freezer example, I did not try adding say 30 coolers. It's the fact that going from a default of 2 coolers, then adding a 3rd, then a 4th or 5th would yield no discernible change in freezer temperature. Hence me wondering if it's just the games code regarding some sort of tipping point / critical number of coolers.

LordGoldFish

My freezer is about this design:  ( Btw it is a heatwave. )

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W           WWWWW  D=door W= wall C=Cooler
W           W
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LordGoldFish

skullywag

Whats the outside temp? Im guessing most of the walls here back onto the outside and not another internal room (insulation is a thing). It sounds like you simply arent pushing enough cool air into the freezer to offset the heat being pushed in. More coolers is the answer.
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Veneke

#10
Quote from: Ectoplasm on February 09, 2016, 01:46:35 PMI do want to ask if this is the experience of others (to reiterate: During a heatwave, regardless of how many coolers I add, or at what temperature I set them too (either vanilla coolers or those in reheatdist) I can not maintain the freezers temperature).

My freezer: 9x11 internal tiles. Wood walls with 2 doors. 2 coolers set to -20c. Room temp normally: ~-15c. No airlock system.
Heatwave: 40c+ during day. 25c+ during night. Forest biome.

The freezer went to 3-5c during the day. It dropped to -5c at night. If I forbid both doors it drops and stays constant at -7c regardless of whether it's day or night.

As far as I can tell it doesn't matter what temperature you set the coolers to they aim to reach that temperature just as hard whether they're 1 degree off or 50 degrees.

Maybe post a screenshot of your set-up?

Adamiks

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Huh?

Wha?...

OH! I mean, i tho...

I mean, "huge problem" i was like...

Ehh, nevermind...

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LordGoldFish

I tried to add another cooler. Now.... I just got a solar flare........... Yea..... atleast 50 meals just spoiled. Fun.
LordGoldFish

KillTyrant

Quote from: LordGoldFish on February 09, 2016, 03:31:15 PM
I tried to add another cooler. Now.... I just got a solar flare........... Yea..... atleast 50 meals just spoiled. Fun.

Welcome to Rimworld haha

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Can you post a screenshot tho?
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