How to understand weapon ranges ?

[b0rsuk]

A shotgun has 60ish percent accuracy at Long range - and the longest a pump shotgun can shoot is 16 tiles.

How do I translate it to other weapons ? What is "medium", "short", "long" range for each weapon ?

[Aatxe360]

Knives, shivs, clubs, and the like only work up to one tile away.  I guess that would mean they are short range.

[b0rsuk]

No - when you check out weapon stats, you see it has different accuracy values for different ranges. What is considered short range for a shotgun ? Where does medium start and where does it end ?

[DNK]

25%, 25%, 25%, 25%?

[Bairne]

Well, according to the wiki:

The ranges correspond to: Touch = 4, Short = 15, Medium = 30, Long = 50. Between those ranges, they're interpolated.

Pretty sure that means that a shotgun, with a max range of 16, would primarily use the "short" accuracy.

[b0rsuk]

Are these in tiles, not in percent ? That doesn't make sense!! If Medium is 30 tiles, then most weapons in the game can only shoot at Touch and Short, not Medium.

[Bairne]

http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Weapons - it would appear to be tiles, yes. The page here even has a "range (tiles)" listing for the weapons.

[Xav]

That would be a great idea for a mod.  i know there is one that shows the max range of a wielded weapon, but if there were concentric circles (one for each range i.e short/medium/long) , and in between each, the ranged hit percentages were displayed....

[Bairne]

Actually, vanilla currently shows the max range when you order them to shoot something (press b).

The circles seem like it would be doable, and I doubt it would be hard to have it toss up a number next to the circle showing the currently equipped weapon's default % at that range, but it might be a little difficult to do the hit %'s since the accuracy is interpolated - it'd be a new number for every tile. For instance with the sniper rifle being 95% at short range (16) and a mere 55% at touch range (4) it would mean a loss of 3.33% for every tile closer than 16. That also changes with any cover they pass and light conditions and so on.

Disclaimer: I'm am, of course, using very simple math rather than the actual numbers for the interpolation as I have neither the desire nor means to dig into the code for what it's actually calculating.

[carbon]

I made a weapon accuracy table for Excel back in 0.12 (or whatever build 906 is). I've attached it if you want to take a look. All ranges listed are in tiles.

Can't vouch for if things have changed since this was made.

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[Shurp]

Yup, survival rifles rock. 

[b0rsuk]

I made a weapon accuracy table for Excel back in 0.12 (or whatever build 906 is). I've attached it if you want to take a look. All ranges listed are in tiles.

Can't vouch for if things have changed since this was made.

.xlsx ? No, thanks.

[Klitri]

I made a weapon accuracy table for Excel back in 0.12 (or whatever build 906 is). I've attached it if you want to take a look. All ranges listed are in tiles.

Can't vouch for if things have changed since this was made.

.xlsx ? No, thanks.

It answers your question, no need to be rude.

[carbon]

In case anyone can't readily open .xlsx files, I've converted the contained graph to png form.

Yes, I know it's ugly.

I don't understand why Great Bows have (had?) the best touch range accuracy, but that was the case.

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[nuschler22]

It looks helpful but I don't know what the x and y axis values refer to?