Why is milk a vegetable?

Started by CannibarRechter, August 08, 2016, 08:43:42 AM

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CannibarRechter

See subject. This must be intentional. So is there a game balance reason?
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Blato

My best guess is that because fine and lavish meals both require a measure of meat and a measure of vegetable ingredients. That way, milk and meat could be used to make a fine meal.

So, game balance?

Reolos

Perhaps, as most vegetarians are ovo-lacto (eat milk and eggs), milk was better served in the veg category, rather than the meat?

cultist

Technically it's not listed as a vegetable but as "vegetarian" which again is technically correct. The blanket term "vegetarian diet" includes milk and eggs, but not actual meat. Vegetarians who don't eat eggs or drink milk are often refered to as vegans even though this is technically incorrect, as vegans abstain from all animal-based foods and products, not just milk and eggs.

Listen1

Potatoes + milk = mashed potatoes

Steak + milk =... http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Milk-Steak-With-Jelly-Beans

That seems gross, I don't want to eat that.

CannibarRechter

> Technically it's not listed as a vegetable but as "vegetarian"

Technically, milk is a class of "PlantFoodRawBase" with the thingCategory "PlantFoodRaw".

"Technically."

Anyway, I find the situation a bit odd. I guess if you have cows or muffalos, you have a meat and vegetable source at the same time. Perhaps its because of the investment required for the farm animals.
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cultist

Quote from: Flying Rockbass on August 08, 2016, 09:22:39 AM
Potatoes + milk = mashed potatoes

Steak + milk =... http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Milk-Steak-With-Jelly-Beans

That seems gross, I don't want to eat that.

Why would anyone do that to a steak? That's horrible.

cultist

Quote from: CannibarRechter on August 08, 2016, 09:29:34 AM
> Technically it's not listed as a vegetable but as "vegetarian"

Technically, milk is a class of "PlantFoodRawBase" with the thingCategory "PlantFoodRaw".

"Technically."

When I say listed, I mean in the stockpile tab in the game. Not so much in the actual code for the game.

CannibarRechter

> Why would anyone do that to a steak? That's horrible.

Cooking = skill level 1.
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CannibarRechter

> That way, milk and meat could be used to make a fine meal.

True, but this could go the other way: milk and vegetables could make a fine meal.

That sounds stupid, I guess.

Thing is, I've been playing around with making cheese usable in meals, and I've been debating the merits of making it a meat substitute instead of vegetable substitute. I suppose I could just split the difference, and have milk be one way, and cheese the other....
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Blato

Or Tynan could decide and throw in a Dairy section of food, with milk, cheese, yogurt and the like.

Just for the lolz... and then add a "lactose intolerant" trait to our colonists

Mutineer

Scientifically Milk is meat.  Explanation, meat contain amino acids that vegetables do not have and humans do not produce. That why there can be no vegan children. If children do not get this amino acids there development suffer. Adults can be vegans as they are fully develop and can get small amount they need from bacteria in there stomach.

cultist

Quote from: Mutineer on August 08, 2016, 01:07:48 PM
That why there can be no vegan children. If children do not get this amino acids there development suffer.

Just to be clear, we are talking about breast milk (mmm human milk) right? Lots of children don't/can't drink animal milk and they develop just fine.

keylocke

imo, milk should be in the animal products.

Mutineer

Quote from: keylocke on August 08, 2016, 08:29:20 PM
imo, milk should be in the animal products.

No any animal milk, not necessary human.