Cooking human meat not possible?

Started by Daliena91, April 03, 2014, 06:15:27 PM

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Daliena91

So, I suppose this might get me a few weird stares, even here where people openly discuss their tyrannical colonies and Soylent Green plants.. But! I seem to be having the problem that if I set a cooking stove to a bill that includes human meat as a necessary ingredient to make it (Simple meal, or better meals that only have human meat and one other ingredient allowed) colonists will flat refuse to make it.

They will passively ignore the stoves, nor can I bring up the context menu to tell someone to do it or the next chef will find the larder stocked with another stack.

I do mostly use raiders, as I got tired of giving those psychopaths viking funerals..

ITypedThis

Heh. In my experience it's entirely possible. The colonists just go for everything else first before human flesh.

Daliena91

Strange. As I said, in my case they utterly refused to use the cooking stoves for anything, preferring to eat nutrient paste. I had people with the appropriate cooking skill who had cooking set to their priority #1, and I couldn't so much as force them through the context menu (as it didn't appear) to use the stove.

ITypedThis

Quote from: Daliena91 on April 04, 2014, 02:30:51 PM
Strange. As I said, in my case they utterly refused to use the cooking stoves for anything, preferring to eat nutrient paste. I had people with the appropriate cooking skill who had cooking set to their priority #1, and I couldn't so much as force them through the context menu (as it didn't appear) to use the stove.

If you really want them to cannibalize, you can always just turn off colonist interaction for every other type off food leaving only human flesh. At that point they'll have to choice. :P

Daliena91

Well the point was to cook the stuff a little first to not compound morale loss with morale loss. I don't remember what the numbers are for raw food, but even nutrient paste is a -8, with another -10 for cannibalism.  :P

a89a89

Sounds like you got a bug on your hands

ITypedThis

Quote from: Daliena91 on April 04, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
Well the point was to cook the stuff a little first to not compound morale loss with morale loss. I don't remember what the numbers are for raw food, but even nutrient paste is a -8, with another -10 for cannibalism.  :P

Even if it was in a lavish meal, it would only ever be better than starvation. Eating anything else would be better. ;D

Daliena91

I don't know. +4 for an advanced meal, -10 for cannibalism for a total of -6. Nutrient paste is -8. So it'd actually work.. Plus it'd just let me dispose of all the raider remains which was the main point, without leading to a riot among my own people  :P

ITypedThis

Quote from: Daliena91 on April 04, 2014, 09:30:20 PM
I don't know. +4 for an advanced meal, -10 for cannibalism for a total of -6. Nutrient paste is -8. So it'd actually work.. Plus it'd just let me dispose of all the raider remains which was the main point, without leading to a riot among my own people  :P

-6, -8, close enough. :P But in the next alpha, bodies are supposed to rot I believe. But even so, you could always just burn them with molotovs or blow them up with grenades.

Daliena91

#9
I could, but every time I get a good crematory going in my dumping zone it starts raining. Hmm, maybe if I set it indoors.. Why'd I never think of that before?

Still, could've made for some decent emergency rations early on. My latest colony had to resort to Soylent Green since I got tired of tweaking who I start with and got.. A minstrel, a noble and a janitor! As you can imagine there wasn't really a lot of food being grown there.

ITypedThis

Quote from: Daliena91 on April 04, 2014, 11:00:48 PM
I could, but every time I get a good crematory going in my dumping zone it starts raining. Hmm, maybe if I set it indoors.. Why'd I never think of that before?

Still, could've made for some decent emergency rations early on. My latest colony had to resort to Soylent Green since I got tired of tweaking who I start with and got.. A minstrel, a noble and a janitor! As you can imagine there wasn't really a lot of food being grown there.

Heh. Yeah, I suppose in a pinch it might help a little. But then of course there's the whole "oh no, I just ate someone" thing that nags on their conscience and all... :P

ShadowTani

I tried using human meat for the prison nutrient dispenser; sadly the colonist eagerly used the prison dispenser just as much as the prisoners, even if they had a dispenser of their own in addition to simple and fine meals. So that's another thing I would love to see changed, that dispensers located inside a prison doesn't get used by colonists unless their only alternative is raw food. :/

Daliena91

#12
If these goons aren't deadened by the regularly scheduled bloodbaths caused by the larger raids (Randy doesn't care. At all.) then I don't know what's going on.

P.S. With the sheer amount of food a huge colony eats, well.. Soylent Green's back on the menu, though the absurd amount of bad weather (If it's not an eclipse, or raining, it's just generally shutting off all electronics. Geothermal generators can't remotely cope with the demand) means it's disturbingly often left raw. - 32 or so mood? Atleast cooked food could be prepared a little bit in advance during those rare moments electricity was available :P

FtDLulz

Quote from: ShadowTani on April 05, 2014, 03:56:56 PM
I tried using human meat for the prison nutrient dispenser; sadly the colonist eagerly used the prison dispenser just as much as the prisoners, even if they had a dispenser of their own in addition to simple and fine meals. So that's another thing I would love to see changed, that dispensers located inside a prison doesn't get used by colonists unless their only alternative is raw food. :/
I don't believe that should be happening. I know many people had problems with colonists not using dispensers since they were technically in the same room as the prisoners.

Ozymandias

They should just stop complaining and appreciate the variety of food they get to enjoy.