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mbond

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How does combat work?
« on: April 23, 2016, 11:40:30 AM »


I'm getting my butt kicked during raids.

When I get attacked I click the "Draft" button on my people. Then they just stand there. I can click on the weapon they have armed, and click on a raider, but then they end up getting dead. Is there way to move them behind sandbags manually and shoot from there?
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2016, 11:43:47 AM »

when you have a pawn drafter you can right click them to move them, they should auto attack any enemies, if this isnt happening you have issues with your game.
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2016, 11:54:02 AM »

moving to a cover(a wall for low and high cover) or sandbags(for low cover) reduces the chance of ranged attacks hitting by a big margin, like 60% less likely.
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2016, 01:02:32 PM »

Use cover,  give people the right weapons,  and play it safe. Also use numbers,  form a militia,  don't rely on 2 guys.

Also rocks,  trees and other objects provide cover ,  keep that in mind
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2016, 01:20:46 PM »

Use cover,  give people the right weapons,  and play it safe. Also use numbers,  form a militia,  don't rely on 2 guys.

Also rocks,  trees and other objects provide cover ,  keep that in mind

There is some nuance to this. In principle, two skilled shooters with solid rifles and good cover can hold off a raid. RNG shenanigans makes this a little save-scummy to pull off, though.

Essentially, because of the heavy rng involved in combat, you essentially have to meta the system and orchestrate scenarios that are either no-risk (killboxes) or minimal-risk (defensive positions flanking turrets, under a roof, behind a pillar surrounded by sandbags).
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2016, 01:38:04 PM »

They "can"  yea, but getting other people out to fight is a big help. You train them in shooting,  and you have more guns to kill enemies faster.  Don't use less than you need to,  unless people are already injured
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2016, 02:20:26 PM »

When I get attacked I click the "Draft" button on my people. Then they just stand there. I can click on the weapon they have armed, and click on a raider, but then they end up getting dead. Is there way to move them behind sandbags manually and shoot from there?
basically, under normal conditions, u dont have control over your colonists, but when u 'draft' them, u gain almost total control (meaning u have to think for them as well). manipulate them as in normal RTS, and dont forget to undraft them after (they will neglect any needs untill extreme cases).
if u really struggle combat, see some LP videos, u'll get the basics.
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2016, 07:24:13 AM »

Just for the sake of completeness, incase some other poor newb stumbles across this thread.

To move a drafted colonist, right click.

that one took me far too long to figure out :-P
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2016, 07:52:30 AM »

Yeah mbond, that seems to be what the OP was missing.  Drafting them will just leave them standing there.  Right click gets them moving.

Minor annoyance: on a snow covered map it's hard to see the lines showing their movement path and destination circle.
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Re: How does combat work?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2016, 09:34:38 AM »

For the sake of completion, I think it's worth noting that most of the time it's not beneficial to control attacks directly. The flow of combat is mostly about positioning. Success also depends heavily on you choosing where to fight and under the best circumstances. Rushing or impromptu defense eventually leads to colony death. You need a game plan more than anything else.
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