Rejected Proposal debuff is insane.

Started by b0rsuk, July 21, 2016, 07:14:48 AM

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b0rsuk


IT STACKS. What am I supposed to do - put him in cryptosleep casket ??

b0rsuk

Several minutes later, Mole accepted Rat's proposal. Do you think Rat will cares ? NOPE. I think I'm going to keep him permadrunk. My colony is hugging an ancient danger room, maybe I should open it and really put him in the casket.

Mkok

 ;D ;D

Guess that should be kinda reworked  ;D

Putting him into cryptosleep will not help, he will be frozen, including his mood effects. When he wakes up, he will pick up where he left. You will just prevent him from going maniac for the time hes sleeping. If you really want to have him wait it out safely, cut of one of his legs  ;D

Listen1

Wow, what?

That is most certantly a bug. Debuffs shouldn't scale beyound -15

Calahan

Quote from: Flying Rockbass on July 21, 2016, 08:43:22 AM
That is most certantly a bug. Debuffs shouldn't scale beyound -15
Do you have a reference you can link to for that please?

Chibiabos

Yeah, I had a guy near-constantly berserk, he killed several puppies and inflicted several permanent injuries due to super-mood-debuff due to rejected proposal.  When he'd get incapacitated, he'd get rescued, then get revived, but within a minute go back to berserk. :/  It wouldn't let me try to arrest him even when he wasn't berserked, or I woulda done that to let him work it out in jail without being able to hurt more colonists. :/
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DeltaVee

Yes I felt this pain too; everyone in my colony is walking around with destroyed fingers and cracked ribs of continuously fist fighting with a double rejected beserker... I should've probably just killed him and fed him to the dogs, but I managed to ride it out (partially due to Randy being lenient).

I think the values of a rejected proposal (and also the buff for getting married) should be lowered a bit and not stack, whilst upping the values of losing family members, because losing a sister is just -14; which is arguably more psychologically impactful than being rejected.

andyprogrammer

Have you ever had your marriage proposal be rejected?

Trust me, it kills your mood for a long time.

:(

b0rsuk

#8
I'll be honest - I'm clueless about these issues.

Let's see if he gets out of this one. He's my best medic, best cook, good grower and there's healroot to plant 1st Summer - 11th Summer. He's also a cute triggerhappy with 2 skill and LMG.

Sponge

Quote from: b0rsuk on July 21, 2016, 07:18:04 AM
Mole accepted Rat's proposal.
Mole accepted Rat's proposal.
Mole Rat's.




Lol

b0rsuk

#10

Do wesela się zagoi!

Murdo

Moods in general are a little overkill, and I think it's because they're being stretched to represent things they can't reasonably. I'd rather see two meters, Mood and Stress... the former covers pleasure or dissatisfaction, and impacts productivity, work quality, schedule-adherence (for non-critical tasks) and social interactions (moods are contagious), while the latter covers traumatic events, prolonged dangerous combat, excessive corpses etc.. Psychic drones could affect one or the other, or both. Mood and stress would affect each other, but at a significantly lower rate than the direct impact items.

It would also be nice to see stress reactions that reflect more of a primal survival instinct, rather than going into shock and wandering around a firefight taking off random clothes. But this might all be beyond the intended scope for RW1.

Shurp

Have you tried having your colonists beat him unconscious with logs, then remove his leg?

But your solution seems to work too.  Good thing pawns don't need plumbing :)
If you give an annoying colonist a parka before banishing him to the ice sheet you'll only get a -3 penalty instead of -5.

And don't forget that the pirates chasing a refugee are often better recruits than the refugee is.

b0rsuk

I don't like mutilating a colonist, especially a cute little Rat who has LMG, is triggerhappy but has no skill with guns.

My solution is perfect unless he catches flu.

giannikampa

Quote from: andyprogrammer on July 21, 2016, 12:01:12 PM
Have you ever had your marriage proposal be rejected?

Trust me, it kills your mood for a long time.

:(

Still won't push you in a killing rampage
And as always.. sorry for my bad english