Another topic about scars

[Adamiks]

I'm happy to see so many people more or less agreeing with me.

If we'll be lucky, Tynan will see this topic and take a deeper look at scars.

[TheDirge]

Scars / burns on things like face/hands should have a social effect if they're gruesome to look at it, but the pain should mostly be gone after some time

[mumblemumble]

I do wish scars were much smaller in hp loss, or could vary. Say, small scars which take of 1 hit point, leave a mark, but are almost ignorable, and then massive scars that also leave lasting nerve damage, like the current scars.

[Bobylein]

Scars / burns on things like face/hands should have a social effect if they're gruesome to look at it, but the pain should mostly be gone after some time

I remember correctly things like a burned off nose give the disfigured social penalty but no idea if scars count too or only missing body parts.


@adam
Are you sure the scar on the head is reducing the consciousness? Usually the brain is the only part that directly affects consciousness in RW.

[KillTyrant]

One of my prisoners has a scar on their eye and that has a negative impact on his social interactions. Since ugly can be "surgically" done, i wonder if we could have plastic surgery to fix peoples appearence

On topic.

It would be nice to see a rework on scars with how skilled the doctor is that treated your wound was, the type of medicine, how much bed rest, and some RNG to simulate the minutiae difference of the layout nerve networks. For me this is a very very low priority project but it would be nice to not have to buy painkillers for people that have scars on their pinky. Something i would really liked reworked is how burns are treated. Haha maybe skin grafting surgery becomes a thing. However, that may be getting off topic as well. So i digress.

[Adamiks]

@Bobylein

You're right. It might be a bug. Also, i dont have that savefile anymore, so i cant check, but from what i recall there was no other hediffs on that colonist that could decrease the consciousness.

[Mr.Cross]

One of my prisoners has a scar on their eye and that has a negative impact on his social interactions. Since ugly can be "surgically" done, i wonder if we could have plastic surgery to fix peoples appearence

I can see it now Plastic surgery catastrophic failure! Your colonist, instead of having a slight disfigurement can now look like this guy!

[Generalkrunk]

I got stabbed just above my knee when I was a teen and it hurts quite a bit sometimes. I think their should be a difference between superficial and deep scars.

[SirDerpface]

I got stabbed just above my knee when I was a teen and it hurts quite a bit sometimes. I think their should be a difference between superficial and deep scars.

I'm guessing when a pawn gets shot and he fully heals he only gets a superficial scar, when getting a regular scar it's a deep painful one.

[PotatoeTater]

and then another huge one on my head from an ice accident.

I'm curious, what exactly is an "ice accident"?

Ramsi too is interested in wtf you did with ice accidentally.

@Ramsi and @Cultist, I was outside and a giant chunk of ice flew off the roof and nailed me right in the head. It was almost like a cartoon, but it literally flew a good 15 feet before contacting my head.

[mumblemumble]

Yeah, having scars be more varied would be huge. Perhaps 3 ranks, which can mix and match.

Mark : a noticable mark from the old injurey.  easy to get, but BY ITSELF is not a huge thing. very small social hit if on the face, or naked, but otherwise very small.

Nerve / bone damage : Long term, irreversible (without damn good meds  ) damage, causing pain, lower function, and serious problems. Only likely from very extensive injuries, or shitty / no treatment on minor injuries

Deformation : A wound that healed, but not necessarily right, leaving it somewhat deformed, developing mis-shapen tissue, lumps, or other issues. By itself not much of an issue, but effects social life if not covered

Oh also, we do need plastic surgery to say, replace noses or such, even if people get a similar uncanny valley social hit because of a weird nose, it would be better than a hole where it should be I imagine.

[Lykos]

In regards to the point on noses i saw in Aavaks play through that you can build a bionic nose for people. Worth mentioning i think. Not sure if it was a mode he was using it was Alpha 13 'Oolong rise' is the name of the series if you wanna check it out but i think that happens like late in the series so *Shrugs*

[mumblemumble]

Pretty sure its a mod, I see no way to install a false nose, and I've never heard of a bionic nose either....

[ShadowTani]

Well, unless more significant features involving smelling are implemented I feel a bionic nose is a bit redundant for vanilla. However, I don't see why plastic surgery and skin grafting isn't a thing for dealing with scars and possibly also lost noses.

Of course, such injuries shouldn't be too easily treated though, and with the implementation of treatments for them the chances for them happening should probably also be increased.

And I would then really liked seeing the glitterworld medkit being a requirement for treating these, making these treatments reasonably difficult and expensive just with that. If I'm not mistaken it currently only give a small success bonus over regular medkits anyway which doesn't really justify their relative rarity and expense at the moment imo.

[nccvoyager]

I agree that a reworking of how scars work would be a long-term project, but also a nice one.

So, a little story here for me I guess.
I have a scar on my leg from an incident I had with my bicycle.
Basically, my leg slipped, and a bunch of skin was torn off by the gear.
In two days, the wound had closed itself, and scabbed over.
In two weeks, the skin had reestablished itself, and I had a nice set of scars.
Now, three years later, the scar tissue is about half the size it was, and causes a minimal amount of pain when stretched.

Maybe two types of scar, and multiple sizes?
-A "permanent" scar, basically being something like damage to an internal organ, and cannot be healed.
-A "healing scar" which would be likely on skin damage, and eventually be reduced in size until it is either fully healed, or turns into a permanent scar.
-Tiny, Small, Mild, Large, Extreme.
--Tiny and Small scars may produce a little pain, and healing scars would heal within a year.
--Mild and Large scars may produce mild pain, and healing scars may fully heal on the skin, though internal organs will likely remain permanently damaged.
--Extreme scars are bad news. They would produce a large amount of pain, and would be unlikely to ever fully heal. Skin would heal to cover the area, though it would be permanently malformed. Internal organs would be likely to be functioning at minimal levels with such a scar.

In terms of medical knowledge, I have no formal training, though through observations I have made of people I know, deep scars (such as surgical cut scars) rarely ever fully heal, though they are also unlikely to cause much pain, if any.