Installing Organs

[Woodlin4000]

Simple question bugging the hell out of me. Is there an special requirements for surgery like a needed level or skill? I've been trying for hours to install bionic eyes and every time the patient dies. Doctor is Lvl20 with a med bed and vital monitors. I have the extended prosthetics mod but I don't see why that would affect anything. Just seems like a bug is playing with me.....

[Alenerel]

Maybe its a bug? How the patient dies?

I just installed 4-6 bionics in a row with a level 13 doctor in a good medical bed with normal medicine in a sterile room. Im playing vanilla.

[Woodlin4000]

Room isn't sterile but that's never been a problem before. Hes using a good medical bed with herbal medicine again never had a problem with either of those. They keep dying during surgery to a ton of medical cuts. Sometimes they die sometimes he just fails but never succeeds.

[harpo99999]

since a14, how clean the room is has a large effect on surgery success,
in my opinion it should only effect infection chances, NOT will the patient DIE during surgery.

[Alenerel]

I both agree and disagree. Normal infections are very treatable and are almost no threat, while infections during surgery are very serious. I like that the game reflects this last somehow.

Also have in mind that the doctor is healthy and has no problems with his sight, manipulation and consciousness. Also using better medicine helps.

Try sterile room + normal medicine and tell us our results.

[ArguedPiano]

Also have in mind that the doctor is healthy and has no problems with his sight, manipulation and consciousness. Also using better medicine helps.

This is very important. Does your doctor have both their arms, hands, and eyes? Do they have any conditions such as bad back, frail, or cataracts? Is your doctor suffering from any addictions or pain, (I.E. are they fully conscious)? Is the hospital well lit with lamps?

Alternatively you can check the Surgery Success Chance by going to the pawns information tab. If everything checks out then there very well may be a bug.

[Woodlin4000]

After much trial and error and getting all hands on deck to build a sterile room I can confirm my doctor is retarded. A lvl3 doctor accomplished in 1 try what a Lvl20 couldn't do it 30 tries.

[Zhentar]

A level 20 doctor with all capacities at 100% using herbal medicine in a clean-but-not-sterile room has a 25% chance of failure. Anything that reduces the doctor's consciousness/sight/manipulation will drastically increase that; smokeleaf high would bring it to close to 50% chance of failure, being short one arm/hand would have a 63% chance of failure. If you actually failed 30 tries in a row, it's almost certainly because of reduced capacities.


Lighting doesn't matter at all. Sterility barely matters - 0.6 cleanliness increases the chance of success by a whole 3%. Serious dirtiness can make a big difference; -10.0 cleanliness reduces the success chance by 1/3, but sterile tiles won't do much to fix that.

[SurvivoroftheNoobs]

I have 0 problems installing organs in clean sterile rooms. But you get some filth or dirt or something dirty in there and everyone looses their minds. Then noone survives the doctor from hell.

[psionicmushroom]

It took me a while to figure out that having a sound body and mind were FAR more important to being a successful doctor than experience. I used to have my best doctor do surgeries regardless of their bodily fitness, until I opened the detailed information tab and found that my level 15 doctor with one eye and a steel arm had less than a 60% chance of success.

[Shurp]

Important note: don't use herbal medicine for surgeries.  Use medkits or glitterworld meds.  Herbal is for gunshots, diseases, bruises, and anything else you care to waste healroot on.  But use your medkits for real medicine.