Will Hygiene ever get added to the game?

[jzero]

There's water in cactus....

OOOOH DROPPIN THAT KNOWLEDGE BOMB.

anyways, I think if implemented correctly. Than water could be a valuable addition to the game.

[Boston]

There's water in cactus....

Not.... really.

I am assuming that you are referring to the "survival trick" of cutting open barrel cactus and scooping out the insides?

If so, you realize that you are supposed to distill the water out of that, right? You can get seriously ill if you drink it straight. And, many species of cactus that have water in them are poisonous.

Not to mention that "cutting open cactuses" for water is a particularly shitty way to support a community. Even in regions where the natives did that, they used it as a survival measure, and built their towns around water sources.

[StorymasterQ]

Oh god, SOKKA WITH CACTUS JUICE comes into mind immediately.

[Bob_Namg]

Water added right now would just be a paperweight factor, I'm siding with the one dude that if it is added it needs its own set of major updates and gimmicks to keep the balance.

There is a "water table" everywhere on the planet. You can dig wells to access this water table.

In a desert? Yeah, that water table will be rrrrreeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy far down.

This, of course, is why real-life humans were smart enough to either 1) Not fucking live in deserts, or 2) be nomadic

If you want to settle in a desert, then complain about not having enough water............. well, that is on you. You had the choice to land there.

I think water would be an excellent addition to the game.

Seconding this

[SpookCrow]

There's water in cactus....

Not.... really.

I am assuming that you are referring to the "survival trick" of cutting open barrel cactus and scooping out the insides?

If so, you realize that you are supposed to distill the water out of that, right? You can get seriously ill if you drink it straight. And, many species of cactus that have water in them are poisonous.

Not to mention that "cutting open cactuses" for water is a particularly shitty way to support a community. Even in regions where the natives did that, they used it as a survival measure, and built their towns around water sources.

Then tell me how the hell you are suppose to survive in a desert with limited water.
Im guessing cargo pods will deliver water in containers that will help your colonists survive longer until they die of dehydration. Your body will shut down in three days without water so theres no way your going to have a successful colony.

[Boston]

There's water in cactus....

Not.... really.

I am assuming that you are referring to the "survival trick" of cutting open barrel cactus and scooping out the insides?

If so, you realize that you are supposed to distill the water out of that, right? You can get seriously ill if you drink it straight. And, many species of cactus that have water in them are poisonous.

Not to mention that "cutting open cactuses" for water is a particularly shitty way to support a community. Even in regions where the natives did that, they used it as a survival measure, and built their towns around water sources.

Then tell me how the hell you are suppose to survive in a desert with limited water.
Im guessing cargo pods will deliver water in containers that will help your colonists survive longer until they die of dehydration. Your body will shut down in three days without water so theres no way your going to have a successful colony.

Like real life? You don't

As I stated above, the overwhelming majority of human cultures don't/didn't live in deserts. Those that do are usually nomadic, moving from oasis to oasis, or stay by the coast/rivers, where there is some water and a moderated climate. In the middle of the desert? Yeah, no, not going to happen

You can't go to a region where it is known to be inimical to human life and expect to be able to live there, "just because". Same thing with tundra/ice sheets. In "real life" very few cultures actually live in places where it is really hard to do so, and those that do tend to be pretty famous for it. And, even then, they tend to have really small populations.

And, as to your final comment, you can last 3 days without water in a temperate environment, aka in-game deciduous forest. In an actual desert, you would be lucky to last a couple of hours.

The ONLY reason you can make survivable colonies in-game in the middle of the godforsaken desert is because the pawns don't need water. Add water, and you overwhelmingly likely-wouldn't be able to survive. Sorry, "reality" works that way.

Dig a well (never said it would be impossible, just HARD), or cluster around an oasis. There are your options.

[jzero]

There's water in cactus....

Not.... really.

I am assuming that you are referring to the "survival trick" of cutting open barrel cactus and scooping out the insides?

If so, you realize that you are supposed to distill the water out of that, right? You can get seriously ill if you drink it straight. And, many species of cactus that have water in them are poisonous.

Not to mention that "cutting open cactuses" for water is a particularly shitty way to support a community. Even in regions where the natives did that, they used it as a survival measure, and built their towns around water sources.

Then tell me how the hell you are suppose to survive in a desert with limited water.
Im guessing cargo pods will deliver water in containers that will help your colonists survive longer until they die of dehydration. Your body will shut down in three days without water so theres no way your going to have a successful colony.

Like real life? You don't

As I stated above, the overwhelming majority of human cultures don't/didn't live in deserts. Those that do are usually nomadic, moving from oasis to oasis, or stay by the coast/rivers, where there is some water and a moderated climate. In the middle of the desert? Yeah, no, not going to happen

You can't go to a region where it is known to be inimical to human life and expect to be able to live there, "just because". Same thing with tundra/ice sheets. In "real life" very few cultures actually live in places where it is really hard to do so, and those that do tend to be pretty famous for it. And, even then, they tend to have really small populations.

And, as to your final comment, you can last 3 days without water in a temperate environment, aka in-game deciduous forest. In an actual desert, you would be lucky to last a couple of hours.

The ONLY reason you can make survivable colonies in-game in the middle of the godforsaken desert is because the pawns don't need water. Add water, and you overwhelmingly likely-wouldn't be able to survive. Sorry, "reality" works that way.

Dig a well (never said it would be impossible, just HARD), or cluster around an oasis. There are your options.

True, true. But listen to this.

THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE. What you are saying is that in Rimworld ( ya know, the one with killer ai robots and thrumbos and such) you can't have colonies in the desert because of water not realistically found there. Same with the ice sheet and tundra. But NEWSFLASH this game and most others aren't aiming to be hyper-realistic. You are completely correct about people not really living in these places irl, don't get me wrong. But what I am trying to lay out for ya is the fact that games don't HAVE to follow exact real life statisics and such. In short, i think that water could be a fun thing. As long as it isn't impossible to gather. And, just for you Boston. I will employ the same tactic I used in our last argument (because chances are this will turn into one)

SHHHHHHHHH ( ples don't assault me with an underline-filled retort)

[Toggle]

Also, the fact is Rimworld isn't the type of the game with that type of hurdle to jump over. If water was added, there's no way it would be extremely difficult to survive in deserts, because it's just not like that. You'd probably be able to easily build a well in any place.

[Tatte]

Why is water an annoying hurdle, yet food is an important gameplay element? I mean even at a basic level, water is more important then food.

*Plays on ice sheet, all water freezes over, cant drink, everyone dies*

[Mikhail Reign]

So you have to keep water in a warm food, the same as you have to keep food cold. The concept is already in the game.  As for people saying "it's just another job for the colonists to do" - isn't that really all this game is? The combat obviously isn't where the meat of this game is. The core is the management of colonists, and currently once I have food planted, there really arent any hurdles to overcome.

[AllenWL]

If there was water in the game, I don't think water should need purifying other than maybe marsh water. I've always felt that unless it's a survival-simulator of a epic scale, water purifying for any water that isn't visibly filthy was kinda redundant. Sure, it's 'realistic', but let's face it. Realistic is not what should be the #1 guideline for features, and what's the use of every water ever needing a extra step to be drinkable? What does it add other then "Do A to get B' which needs to go through D to get B"? I mean, if water is to be purified, we might as well peel potatoes and corn, take the top off berries, and mill rice to remove the husk before we cook them.

Purifying water makes sense in real life, but in a game, it's really just a thing that's there for the sake of being there(unless it's muddy water or swamp water or something)

Yes most water needs to be purified, but what does purifying rainwater add to the game?

Yes, cactus water(cactus juice?) shouldn't be drunk straight, and some species might be poisons. Well, we only have one type of cacti, and just have it give a debuff, and we have a source of water that can be supplemented with whatever falls with you and no baths to last till you all die horribly or dig a well or whatever.

I think water can be a great addition with proper planning and uses.
People say 'it's just another chore to do' But I bet that if for some reason, rimworld started out with a water system but no food, this argument would happen anyways, but with 'food' and 'water' changed. The 'problem' I see isn't that water is a bad idea, it's that rimworld is already very well fleshed out without water, and there can be another feature that might help expand the game more than water.

I mean, personally, I would enjoy it very much if water came to rimworld next update, but if it was a choice, I would rather Tynan work on say, more social interactions rather than water.

[RawCode]

this is not "sims"...

[ZestyLemons]

As far as water purifying and stuff goes: make it like food.

Colonists can drink non-purified or dirty water; just give dirty water a negative thought like eating nutrient paste. Bad water increases chance of illness, just like having a bad cook giving food poisoning. Bad water involved in operations could increase chance of infection, and so on.

I think you guys over complicate things.

[Railgun Convention]

As for water sources in the desert...

They already exist. In fact, even the desert is full of them. The Rimworld as a whole can't get enough of them.

Where are they, you ask?

What did you think the "hydro" part of "hydrothermal vent" meant? 

[Fluffy (l2032)]

I think you'll find they're called geothermal vents?