Boiler & Heating Pipes!

Started by Scarecrow, January 29, 2018, 09:30:58 AM

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Scarecrow


  • Boiler that runs off fuel
  • Boiler that runs off electricity
  • Heating pipes

I think this is something that should really be in the vanilla game. Maybe there could be two kinds of boilers, one that runs off burning wood and another that run off electricity. The piping could be connected to a boiler and then the pipes run inside the walls in a similar fashion like electricity wires do. I understand there are heaters already in game, but putting a heater inside every single room seems a little OTT when most buildings IRL have boilers and central heating.

patoka

seems to like mod territory. if you have hot water pipes (even if for heating only) you'd also need an equivalent to the bzzzzt event.
also, why would it be needed anyway? arent campfires and heaters enough already? or do you mean because in real life they are more effective than heaters like that? i guess that WOULD make sense, but currently the heaters are good enough in my opinion
but i'm sure people will happily include this idea in their mods that already contain things that need water and stuff
surely you dont need to rebutcher corpses that you already half butchered if you leave the table to smoke a joint real quick?

Scarecrow

The equivalent to the bzzzzt event would be a leak event.  And hmm I guess I putting a heater/campfire in every single bedroom is kinda inconvenient??? Once you get into double digits with colonists it gets kinda ridiculous as every bedroom will need a heater or else your colonists complain that they slept in the cold. In real life you don't put a heater in every single room, and a heater is generally a cheaper option than installing central heating so it would not make heaters irrelevant if boilers and heating pipes were added as they would be varying in expense compared to the cheaper alternatives you mentioned. Heaters are all well and good, but would you not prefer to change the temperature of most of your rooms all at once using a couple clicks or adjusting all heaters separately only to turn them all off separately once winter is over? It would be a step up from campfires and heaters as you wouldn't have to manage as much.

patoka

well yes it would be a leak but what would it do and how would you implement it? it just seems like a LOT of work to me as much as i understand coding and that only for centralized heating, which in my opinion isnt needed for the following reasons aswell:
-centralized heating is already a thing in rimworld if you play fortress mode and not village. have one huge and complicated hallway structure which you actually heat. all the rooms touch the hallway and have vents to it. boom. all you need to do is turn up the heat a degree or two a ove what you want in your rooms and you're done.
-well...where i live you actually DID use to put at least one heater in every room...but i wouldnt do that in rimworld either, just like you said. heat the hallway, not the rooms.
-i didnt mean the installation would be cheap but the energy cost to keep the house/fortress heated. heaters are quite inefficient, except if there were recent improvements to them that i dont know of.
-i do change all heaters at once already: zoom out, double click a heater (like that, all heaters on the screen are selected), adjust heat level or turn on/off and you're done
-besides all this, heaters are industrial tech and so is centralized heating. how would you even differentiate them on the research tree? why would anybody research both? or is this more like an either/or research like in other games?

i like many suggestions but unfortunately most wont be accepted into vanilla anymore. you should hope for mods. anything with water will have a hard time to be accepted for vanilla. have you noticed how pawns dont fight fire with water but dirt and stomping it out? same thing. water will not be introduced to the game in any other way shape or form than standing waters, rivers and rain :/
surely you dont need to rebutcher corpses that you already half butchered if you leave the table to smoke a joint real quick?

Harry_Dicks

Dubs Bad Hygiene, is that not what you want? It has boilers, pipes, thermostats, toilets, showers, baths, and a lot more! If you haven't seen that, make sure to check it out, along with Rimatomics. His other mod is Skylights and Rimkit. All of them are honestly 10/10 quality and will blow your socks off if you haven't seen them, and that is being completely honest.

https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29043.0

AileTheAlien

Dubs Bad Hygeine is good; I'm using that mod right now!  : )