[MODLIST][A9] apljee's Simple Mods! - POLL

[Latta]

I just tested and it looks good! But taking 30 logs while standing 24000 ticks is too short, as campfire takes 35 logs and can be there for 40000 ticks.

EDIT: Also the torch is overlapped by conduit. It's because torch's altitudeLayer is set to FloorEmplacement, which is same as conduit. Consider change it to higher altitude, like Waist.

[apljee]

I just tested and it looks good! But taking 30 logs while standing 24000 ticks is too short, as campfire takes 35 logs and can be there for 40000 ticks.

EDIT: Also the torch is overlapped by conduit. It's because torch's altitudeLayer is set to FloorEmplacement, which is same as conduit. Consider change it to higher altitude, like Waist.

Will do - I'll also make the torch's resource's a little less.

EDIT: Fixed.

[Igabod]

I guess you're right - I was thinking like you, I mostly somewhere to the south but not directly Sarranid territory. I was thinking Swadian or Rhodok. Thanks.

I just played a game and specifically looked for the fighting pick. I found it in the shops in the Vaegir territory. I rarely ever go in that region for anything except sea raider battles, so that's why I never saw it before.

[apljee]

I guess you're right - I was thinking like you, I mostly somewhere to the south but not directly Sarranid territory. I was thinking Swadian or Rhodok. Thanks.

I just played a game and specifically looked for the fighting pick. I found it in the shops in the Vaegir territory. I rarely ever go in that region for anything except sea raider battles, so that's why I never saw it before.

Alright, it'll be included in the Vaegir faction.

[Ray_Anor]

Using a half of one full-grown tree as a torch? HALF of FULL grown TREE? How do you imagine it?
half of... full... grown.. tree.... is a torch.

[Latta]

How about make it cost few sheets of cloth and reduce wood cost?

[apljee]

How about make it cost few sheets of cloth and reduce wood cost?

Hm.. 15 wood and 3 cloth?

[Ray_Anor]

I'm think it must 1-2 logs (wood) and not standing torchs, but wall torchs (as a small lamp in advanced lamps).
Torch no need to heat (as a campfire). Torch must only emit light. Heat - is a byproduct, not a purpose of torch.
Because of this all - it light area longer with smaller quantity of material.
It's my logic.

[apljee]

I'm think it must 1-2 logs (wood) and not standing torchs, but wall torchs (as a small lamp in advanced lamps).
Torch no need to heat (as a campfire). Torch must only emit light. Heat - is a byproduct, not a purpose of torch.
Because of this all - it light area longer with smaller quantity of material.
It's my logic.

2 logs is too cheap. I know this is temporary but campfires provide both heat and light and only cost 35 logs, and they last for longer, which is why I'm saying 15 wood and 3 cloth. And, wall torches don't really look that good in the game, in my opinion.

[Ray_Anor]

I know this is temporary but campfires provide both heat and light and only cost 35 logs, and they last for longer, which is why I'm saying 15 wood and 3 cloth.

But this is illogical. Torchs is first-time temporary light source. They must be cheap. And if used mod for cotton fiber - cloth will be not first material for making torch. 

Do what you want, however.

[apljee]

I know this is temporary but campfires provide both heat and light and only cost 35 logs, and they last for longer, which is why I'm saying 15 wood and 3 cloth.

But this is illogical. Torchs is first-time temporary light source. They must be cheap. And if used mod for cotton fiber - cloth will be not first material for making torch. 

Do what you want, however.

But they need to be balanced. 3 wood is way too cheap - plus, I'd probably make it so you could use leathers in it instead of just cloth. In truth, it's not about making a cheap alternative to a light source, it's more about something that is balanced and fits early game.

[Ray_Anor]

But they need to be balanced. 3 wood is way too cheap

It's not cheap for temporary light source for one day. It's normal.

[apljee]

Poll added.

[Latta]

I'd prefer moderate amount of cost with even longer lifespan.

[apljee]

I'd prefer moderate amount of cost with even longer lifespan.

I'll actually redo the poll with that info.

20 wood and 3 cloth, burns for 2 or 1.5 days?