[A16][WIP] Backstories

Started by AngleWyrm, March 24, 2017, 05:05:16 PM

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AngleWyrm

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Quote from: dburgdorf on March 29, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
... Should I take the oddly irrelevant side-rant as a "no"
Irrelevant side-rant, what a fitting description.

On the topic of copyright law
In keeping with the principles of modding and maintaining an open-source environment, I release all content to the public domain, free of charge and without obligation. Do with it as you will.

Quote from: Granitecosmos on March 29, 2017, 05:40:59 PM
That sucks. But hey, you were the one insisting on doing this.
Apparently you stopped reading after the problem description, and didn't bother to read the solution. But, as you say, I have no problem with building my house on a solid foundation.
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Razzoriel

Thank you for this amazing mod, dear sir. I only have one problem with it:

I don't want my colonists to have Pirate King/tribal backstories. How do I proceed about making the backstories' rationale work as vanilla, and only have the editting/adding/removing aspect preserved?

Granitecosmos

Quote from: AngleWyrm on March 30, 2017, 06:53:17 AM
Quote from: Granitecosmos on March 29, 2017, 05:40:59 PM
That sucks. But hey, you were the one insisting on doing this.
Apparently you stopped reading after the problem description, and didn't bother to read the solution. But, as you say, I have no problem with building my house on a solid foundation.

Apparently you didn't understand what I said. It sucks because you had to fix yet another problem. It almost looks like it would be easier for everyone to just write the xml themselves instead of using a third party program.

Your ignorance entertains me.

Quote from: Razzoriel on March 30, 2017, 07:49:12 AM
Thank you for this amazing mod, dear sir. I only have one problem with it:

I don't want my colonists to have Pirate King/tribal backstories. How do I proceed about making the backstories' rationale work as vanilla, and only have the editting/adding/removing aspect preserved?

OP didn't make the mod. Your compliments belong to Rainbeau a.k.a. dburgdorf. (You know, the guy who actually made the Backstories mod.) This thread has nothing to do with the Backstories mod. Now that I think about it, this is a very misleading thread title. OP please change the title so you don't mislead people to believe this is about the Backstories mod. (Which is not, it's about your third party converter program.)

...Or I can just flag it for the moderators to change it.

Razzoriel

Oh I thought this was his topic, didn't even check. Thanks.

Ramsis

I'm going to put my foot down at this point as I read through this thread for the.... third time.

You're all being moronic about this; Wyrm has the right to work on this project, Dorf has the right to have his work referenced by Wyrm's OP as (I believe) Wyrm's project will still require Dorf's work? Sorry, that bit is confusing. Wyrm stop slapping Dorf or I'll ban you, Dorf stop taking the b8 m8.

@Granite you literally have no place in here and are on the hairy edge of a three day ban for adding nothing to this thread but idiocy and insults. Take the admin's advice and back off now, I won't be repeating myself.
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WalkingProblem

Honestly, I already lost track of what is this "mod" is about actually... after than the simple facts that new backstories are added... =\

I maybe I dun understand what is being attempted here?

AngleWyrm


Quote from: leonlim007 on March 30, 2017, 11:32:52 AM
I already lost track of what is this "mod" is about actually... after than the simple facts that new backstories are added...

See the First post.
  • The new sets of backstories are attached there
  • The current uses for what I'm building are also listed there
The rest of this WIP development thread pretty much requires training in computer science, so it has a narrow target audience.
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dburgdorf

Quote from: Ramsis on March 30, 2017, 11:29:48 AMDorf stop taking the b8 m8.

Your point is well taken, and I apologize for my role in perpetuating the, shall we say, "less productive aspects" of this thread. As I said in an earlier comment, as long as I've been participating in online forums, I really ought to know better by now. ;)

Quote from: leonlim007 on March 30, 2017, 11:32:52 AM
Honestly, I already lost track of what is this "mod" is about actually....

AngleWyrm's goal, as I understand it, is to create a tool intended to simplify the editing of backstory XML files that can be used in my "Editable Backstories" mod. Whatever might come of that tool, the actual backstories he's thus far written will be included (with his permission) in the next update of my mod.
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Ramsis

Quote from: dburgdorf on March 30, 2017, 12:36:41 PM
As I said in an earlier comment, as long as I've been participating in online forums, I really ought to know better by now. ;)

There's a reason why I didn't threaten to ban you but threatened to ban the others ;)
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Granitecosmos

Quote from: Ramsis on March 30, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
Take the admin's advice and back off now, I won't be repeating myself.

Point taken. I shall respect the authority.

Quote from: AngleWyrm on March 30, 2017, 12:02:43 PM
See the First post.
  • The new sets of backstories are attached there
  • The current uses for what I'm building are also listed there
The rest of this WIP development thread pretty much requires training in computer science, so it has a narrow target audience.

Hey, you've finally edited your post like I asked. Thanks! Took your time but hey, better late than never.


AngleWyrm

#40

A first look at the backstory editor; see first post.
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Dragoon

I only have one question. I saw it stated it would rely on editable backstories, but I'm not entirely sure. Do need to get that? I was kinda hoping this would be more a revival for the mod that just allows us to add backstories rather then, just an easier way to add ours to a mod that edits them.
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I truly can't understand that sense of balancing a LOT of modders have, pouring more resources on something doesn't make it more difficult, but more annoying. It is not engaging, even if i'm swimming in silver at late game ¿why to bother?, why all the effort to get there?.

dburgdorf

#42
Quote from: Dragoon on April 01, 2017, 11:44:36 AMI saw it stated it would rely on editable backstories, but I'm not entirely sure. Do need to get that? I was kinda hoping this would be more a revival for the mod that just allows us to add backstories rather then, just an easier way to add ours to a mod that edits them.

So far as I'm aware, AngleWyrm's project, if anything actually comes of it, will simply be an XML file editor.

So, am I understanding correctly that you'd be interested in a mod which allows you to add backstories to the game, without offering any ability to edit or modify the pre-existing backstories? Such a mod would be a fairly trivial to create (perhaps as a "Lite" version of "Editable Backstories"), but I'm not quite sure I see the value, myself. But then, my original motivation in creating EB was less a desire to add anything to the database and more a desire to clean up the mess that I consider many of the default backstories to be.  ;)
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AngleWyrm

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Quote from: Dragoon on April 01, 2017, 11:44:36 AM
I only have one question. I saw it stated it would rely on editable backstories, but I'm not entirely sure. Do need to get that? I was kinda hoping this would be more a revival for the mod that just allows us to add backstories rather then, just an easier way to add ours to a mod that edits them.
The Editable Backstories mod brings backstory files out into the open so that they may be edited. The tool I'm working on is an editor for them.

The current set of backstories from the Editable Backstoris mod that includes basic, tribal and storyteller is available as a readable and searchable *.htm attached to the first post.

The list of stories on the Wiki differs from the list of stories in that compilation.

Attached are two collections, one called 'Missing' which returns a couple stories that are on the wiki into the game, and another called 'Variants' which creates alternate versions of some backstories without over-writing the original, so that both can co-exist in the game.

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WalkingProblem

Quote from: AngleWyrm on April 01, 2017, 04:07:35 PM


Quote from: Dragoon on April 01, 2017, 11:44:36 AM
I only have one question. I saw it stated it would rely on editable backstories, but I'm not entirely sure. Do need to get that? I was kinda hoping this would be more a revival for the mod that just allows us to add backstories rather then, just an easier way to add ours to a mod that edits them.
The Editable Backstories mod brings backstory files out into the open so that they may be edited. The tool I'm working on is an editor for them.

The current set of backstories from the Editable Backstoris mod that includes basic, tribal and storyteller is available as a readable and searchable *.htm attached to the first post.

The list of stories on the Wiki differs from the list of stories in that compilation.

Attached are two collections, one called 'Missing' which returns a couple stories that are on the wiki into the game, and another called 'Variants' which creates alternate versions of some backstories without over-writing the original, so that both can co-exist in the game.

lol... finally you explained clearly...

I dun remember the first post looks like what it is now... maybe I didnt read carefully the first time round~ Go Go Go!!!

=D