Wiki needs updating!

Started by HatesYourFace, August 13, 2014, 08:08:10 AM

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HatesYourFace

#120
Quote from: ZestyLemons on August 18, 2014, 07:29:23 PM
Who's "in charge" of/who administrates the wiki? I need to contact them about something.

Not sure if it's HatesYourFace or Tynan (or someone else), there isn't a general contact page or section.

Nope, not me. I'm not qualified lol! I'm just a RimWorld fan with too much free time and a penchant for forums. My part in this was just to bring the Wiki's current state to the attention of people who were passionate/talented enough to fix it. (Not to toot my own horn, but I'd say I was a rousing success! Because you guys did an awesome job! Lol)
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Tynan

I banned DarkGhost for swearing at another user on personal messages.

We shouldn't need an authority to manage such a small group. If you have a disagreement, talk with each other about it in a civil manner and come to a consensus before moving forward. If there are any issues that you're having trouble deciding, involve me please.
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ZestyLemons

I noticed that the trees don't seem to be on the wiki, and I'm not sure how to go about adding them in relation to the current nav setup: http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Plants

What do you guys think? I was thinking of putting it under a new category of 'Trees', but I guess it can fit into the other sections as well.
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Tynan

I'd say just under plants is fine. When the list gets unmanageably large, that's when it's time to start splitting it up. But it's not too huge yet.
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HatesYourFace

Quote from: ZestyLemons on August 18, 2014, 09:49:35 PM
I noticed that the trees don't seem to be on the wiki, and I'm not sure how to go about adding them in relation to the current nav setup: http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Plants

What do you guys think? I was thinking of putting it under a new category of 'Trees', but I guess it can fit into the other sections as well.

Quote from: Tynan on August 18, 2014, 09:52:40 PM
I'd say just under plants is fine. When the list gets unmanageably large, that's when it's time to start splitting it up. But it's not too huge yet.

Hmm...well Trees differ primarily from the other plants in that you can Harvest wood from them. Does that make them different enough to warrant their own page/section? I'm just worried about where we can display that info with the current plant table? Or is just having it in the detailed page of each tree good enough?
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Tynan

Quote from: HatesYourFace on August 18, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: ZestyLemons on August 18, 2014, 09:49:35 PM
I noticed that the trees don't seem to be on the wiki, and I'm not sure how to go about adding them in relation to the current nav setup: http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Plants

What do you guys think? I was thinking of putting it under a new category of 'Trees', but I guess it can fit into the other sections as well.

Quote from: Tynan on August 18, 2014, 09:52:40 PM
I'd say just under plants is fine. When the list gets unmanageably large, that's when it's time to start splitting it up. But it's not too huge yet.

Hmm...well Trees differ primarily from the other plants in that you can Harvest wood from them. Does that make them different enough to warrant their own page/section? I'm just worried about where we can display that info with the current plant table? Or is just having it in the detailed page of each tree good enough?

Note sure, I leave it up to your sage judgment!
Tynan Sylvester - @TynanSylvester - Tynan's Blog

HatesYourFace

#126
I'm not very good with tables (Cough, Zesty!...Cough Cough) but is there any way we can add Wood harvested to the current table? Could either split Food Yield column into Food/Wood yield, or add an entirely new column on the end for Wood, or just change it to Yield and indicate in each entry if it's Wood or Food. I was thinking and I'm pretty sure the Cactus gives wood as well and I'd hate to have duplicate entries in separate sections. (Ie. A Cactus in the tree section and a Cactus in the plant section) So I think Tynans right and we should try to fit them into the current plants section. Thanks in advance!
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ZestyLemons

#127
Quote from: HatesYourFace on August 18, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
I'm not very good with tables (Cough, Zesty!...Cough Cough) but is there any way we can add Wood harvested to the current table? Could either split Food Yield column into Food/Wood yield, or add an entirely new column on the end for Wood, or just change it to Yield and indicate in each entry if it's Wood or Food. I was thinking and I'm pretty sure the Cactus gives wood as well and I'd hate to have duplicate entries in separate sections. (Ie. A Cactus in the tree section and a Cactus in the plant section) So I think Tynans right and we should try to fit them into the current plants section. Thanks in advance!

Haha, fine enough, I'll add them there for now.

One more Tynan, since you're in the thread: Are you planning to post the art resources for alpha 6? Otherwise, does anyone remember extract the art out of the game? There was a thread somewhere in the modding section it, but I can't seem to find it anymore.

Nevermind, I figured out that using any unity assets explorer and ImageMagic seems to work fine. I'll be adding images to the wiki soon.

Edit:

Trees articles are up, and I added them to the table.
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Damien Hart

The wiki's coming along nicely guys. That main page is a lot better than the old one.

While you're doing the Alpha 6 images Zesty, could you add the charge lance, inferno cannon and the charge blaster? They need to be added on their respective pages, but there are no uploaded images for them. And on the subject of weapons, do they need to have weapon type subpages? Like with the plants, are there enough weapons to justify it? All of the info appears on the main weapons page for comparison, and on each weapon's own page, so the type pages seem kind of redundant.

Anyway, a question for you: does the wiki support watermarks? I was starting up RimWorld last night and it occurred to me that a greyscale watermark of the planet on the title screen would give a nice RimWorld theme to the wiki.

I'm going to add the event descriptions to the article, but does anyone know what the "chance" specifically refers to? It needs to have some sort of explanation but it's not something that I could find; I have some ideas, but obviously without knowing for sure, it's pointless to put something up there.

For the tables, I noticed there were a couple of different types on the wiki, do you guys want to go for a specific type for cohesion? If you do, let me know and I'll start using that.

ZestyLemons

Quote from: Damien Hart on August 19, 2014, 03:42:30 AM
The wiki's coming along nicely guys. That main page is a lot better than the old one.

While you're doing the Alpha 6 images Zesty, could you add the charge lance, inferno cannon and the charge blaster? They need to be added on their respective pages, but there are no uploaded images for them. And on the subject of weapons, do they need to have weapon type subpages? Like with the plants, are there enough weapons to justify it? All of the info appears on the main weapons page for comparison, and on each weapon's own page, so the type pages seem kind of redundant.

Anyway, a question for you: does the wiki support watermarks? I was starting up RimWorld last night and it occurred to me that a greyscale watermark of the planet on the title screen would give a nice RimWorld theme to the wiki.

I'm going to add the event descriptions to the article, but does anyone know what the "chance" specifically refers to? It needs to have some sort of explanation but it's not something that I could find; I have some ideas, but obviously without knowing for sure, it's pointless to put something up there.

For the tables, I noticed there were a couple of different types on the wiki, do you guys want to go for a specific type for cohesion? If you do, let me know and I'll start using that.

Sure, sorry about the weapons pages being really different from the others (I don't really want to bring it up here) - I'll change them back to the current Infoboxes and add pictures for them tomorrow.

Also, for the weapon categories, it doesn't really matter what they're separated into. It'd probably be better to separate them into like "Neolithic" "Grenades" and I dunno, "General/Kinetic Weapons"? At the very least the neolithic weapons are different enough to justify being separate from the rest. If anyone has better ideas for the categories though, feel free to suggest.

As for the tables, I think the most common tables are these: http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Animals http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Animals
If you want to change tables, that's probably your best bet.
Help out with the wiki!

Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Divaya/
Wiki: http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/User:Zesty

Feel free to contact me about wiki questions or wiki admin stuff.

Damien Hart

Quote from: ZestyLemons on August 19, 2014, 04:02:22 AM
Quote from: Damien Hart on August 19, 2014, 03:42:30 AM
The wiki's coming along nicely guys. That main page is a lot better than the old one.

While you're doing the Alpha 6 images Zesty, could you add the charge lance, inferno cannon and the charge blaster? They need to be added on their respective pages, but there are no uploaded images for them. And on the subject of weapons, do they need to have weapon type subpages? Like with the plants, are there enough weapons to justify it? All of the info appears on the main weapons page for comparison, and on each weapon's own page, so the type pages seem kind of redundant.

Anyway, a question for you: does the wiki support watermarks? I was starting up RimWorld last night and it occurred to me that a greyscale watermark of the planet on the title screen would give a nice RimWorld theme to the wiki.

I'm going to add the event descriptions to the article, but does anyone know what the "chance" specifically refers to? It needs to have some sort of explanation but it's not something that I could find; I have some ideas, but obviously without knowing for sure, it's pointless to put something up there.

For the tables, I noticed there were a couple of different types on the wiki, do you guys want to go for a specific type for cohesion? If you do, let me know and I'll start using that.

Sure, sorry about the weapons pages being really different from the others (I don't really want to bring it up here) - I'll change them back to the current Infoboxes and add pictures for them tomorrow.

Also, for the weapon categories, it doesn't really matter what they're separated into. It'd probably be better to separate them into like "Neolithic" "Grenades" and I dunno, "General/Kinetic Weapons"? At the very least the neolithic weapons are different enough to justify being separate from the rest. If anyone has better ideas for the categories though, feel free to suggest.

As for the tables, I think the most common tables are these: http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Animals http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Animals
If you want to change tables, that's probably your best bet.

No problem, I'll use that style for tables and I'll update the trait and research pages too.

If you do want the weapons categorised, then perhaps breaking them up by technology level would fit best, since that's kind of the way they're treated in RimWorld anyway. So we'd have neolithic, modern and advanced, plus any other groups Tynan decides to add - like if say medieval towns were to be added as a faction type, with their own weapons etc.

HatesYourFace

#131
Looks great Zesty, Also I think you and Damien are right about the weapons, there really aren't enough of them to warrant the categories. I'm thinking we should group them by technology level. (IE. Neolithic, Modern, Advanced.) Also, Also, the images look great, I'm super glad they are fixed, do you guys think we should have the RimWorld logo on the front page? Or perhaps the planet background from the game? Just something to liven it up a little, nothing too busy though. The Wiki should be easy to read/navigate above all.
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Damien Hart

Quote from: HatesYourFace on August 19, 2014, 07:30:14 AM
Looks great Zesty, Also I think you and Damien are right about the weapons, there really aren't enough of them to warrant the categories. I'm thinking we should group them by technology level. (IE. Neolithic, Modern, Advanced.) Also, Also, the images look great, I'm super glad they are fixed, do you guys think we should have the RimWorld logo on the front page? Or perhaps the planet background from the game? Just something to liven it up a little, nothing too busy though. The Wiki should be easy to read/navigate above all.

I mentioned earlier that I like the planet - it's the first thing you see when you start up RimWorld, so it seems fitting for it to be the first thing on the wiki too.

Event descriptions are done, have a read to make sure I didn't leave anything out. http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Events
Do you guys know the max explosion size for a power fault?

There's no mood page either, and I have no clue how to make one, so one of you will have to make one. Trade doesn't have a link on the main page either, and there was no edit button, so no idea what's up there.

HatesYourFace

Quote from: Damien Hart on August 19, 2014, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: HatesYourFace on August 19, 2014, 07:30:14 AM
Looks great Zesty, Also I think you and Damien are right about the weapons, there really aren't enough of them to warrant the categories. I'm thinking we should group them by technology level. (IE. Neolithic, Modern, Advanced.) Also, Also, the images look great, I'm super glad they are fixed, do you guys think we should have the RimWorld logo on the front page? Or perhaps the planet background from the game? Just something to liven it up a little, nothing too busy though. The Wiki should be easy to read/navigate above all.

I mentioned earlier that I like the planet - it's the first thing you see when you start up RimWorld, so it seems fitting for it to be the first thing on the wiki too.

Event descriptions are done, have a read to make sure I didn't leave anything out. http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Events
Do you guys know the max explosion size for a power fault?

There's no mood page either, and I have no clue how to make one, so one of you will have to make one. Trade doesn't have a link on the main page either, and there was no edit button, so no idea what's up there.

Events page looks top notch man! I believe the max explosion size for the Power fault event is 15 squares at 90,000 energy stored. Mood is a pretty general concept... it may be a difficult page to write, I will give it some thought first and then make one if no on esle has by then.
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longbyte1

#134
Quote from: Tynan on August 18, 2014, 09:35:29 PM
I banned DarkGhost for swearing at another user on personal messages.

We shouldn't need an authority to manage such a small group. If you have a disagreement, talk with each other about it in a civil manner and come to a consensus before moving forward. If there are any issues that you're having trouble deciding, involve me please.
But a permaban? That stuff should be used sparingly, usually Wikipedia admins block for a fortnight, and that's usually enough to calm somebody down. A permaban will anger him even further.