[A17] German Wehrmacht

Started by orannj, November 04, 2016, 04:01:31 PM

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fetusthebard

Is Nazi symbolism in the modding community actually allowed? Maybe I'm just remembering the information wrong, but I thought all Nazi things were ruled out. I guess I might be thinking of something else?

orannj

At no point have I included any nazi symbolism in this mod. The flag on the main page is that of the Wehrmacht. The Nazis were a political party. I am representing the army proper. Most WWII games today do the same, you rarely see the nazi flag in any of those games unless it's modded in.

DARK3063

#17
Quote from: Ramsis on November 11, 2016, 02:39:11 PM
While I'm not the biggest fan of Dark's comment you're working on a mod based around a faction of the world's history that did horrible things to Jewish individuals.... I mean his statement isn't wrong, just bold.

Please refrain from reporting him in the future folks. It's not like we can just act like it never happened; just don't get into GIANT DISCUSSIONS on the page about morality, actions, etc. This is a mod adding content, keep it about the content being added or future content.
they did a lot of bad things but every government has done equally bad things in the past and peace is better than going to war with nothing, I'm very bold person by nature if I have a true enemy I destroy them but I do not pick unnecessary fights with someone who hates jews when there maybe no jews on the planet your on and without the jews the nazi aren't monsters no monster=no reason to fear. who knows maybe they aren't that bad of people once you look past all the nazi propaganda

orannj

Jesus christ, enough already. I just wanted to make a mod with WWII era troops. There's no political statement to be made, just raw troop information. If you don't like the mod, great! Don't use it. But this forum thread is dedicated to the mod, not discussions about the political history of a certain group. If you have anything to say about the MOD, please feel free, but enough about everything else. Take it to off topic if you want.

Razzoriel

Quote from: orannj on November 14, 2016, 09:52:38 AM
Jesus christ, enough already. I just wanted to make a mod with WWII era troops. There's no political statement to be made, just raw troop information. If you don't like the mod, great! Don't use it. But this forum thread is dedicated to the mod, not discussions about the political history of a certain group. If you have anything to say about the MOD, please feel free, but enough about everything else. Take it to off topic if you want.

The textures look amazing. Ignore the critics who want to disqualify your job because of political views, this is not what your mod is all about. I'd be glad to see more of your work from other sides of the WW II, because its quite a nice period of history where a lot of military technology advanced.

There's a lot of fearmongering from people who eat whatever the media throws at them now that USA has elected someone who is not willing to be complicit with estabilishment corruption, and just so everyone here knows, this rustled some jimmies.

Now, people like to bash Nazi Germany/fascism for killing people, but forget to look at communism death toll which reaches the 100 million deaths, and its milder cousin, socialism, which just as much kills and destroys entire countries from within (Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea).

If I were you, I'd just make the Wehrmacht's weapons slightly better than vanilla's, so I can take my chair, grab some popcorn and watch the salt of these people saying you support fascism and nazism because you made them better than vanilla. These people have no qualms in their witchhunt. Just ignore and keep rocking.

DARK3063

Quote from: Killface on November 14, 2016, 07:20:18 AM
Quote from: DARK3063 on November 13, 2016, 08:08:22 PM
Quote from: Ramsis on November 11, 2016, 02:39:11 PM
While I'm not the biggest fan of Dark's comment you're working on a mod based around a faction of the world's history that did horrible things to Jewish individuals.... I mean his statement isn't wrong, just bold.

Please refrain from reporting him in the future folks. It's not like we can just act like it never happened; just don't get into GIANT DISCUSSIONS on the page about morality, actions, etc. This is a mod adding content, keep it about the content being added or future content.
they did a lot of bad things but every government has done equally bad things in the past and peace is better than going to war with nothing, I'm very bold person by nature if I have a true enemy I destroy them but I do not pick unnecessary fights with someone who hates jews when there maybe no jews on the planet your on and without the jews the nazi aren't monsters no monster=no reason to fear. who knows maybe they aren't that bad of people once you look past all the nazi propaganda
I guess you're either American or have never seen a European history book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht Read and learn. There are many more articles on wikipedia regarding Germany/Europe 1933-1945 which should hopefully clear your mind regarding fascism or 60-80 million dead people during that time. There is no way to "compare" crimes of this scale in order to justify or legitimate them. 
I can't say anything bad about this mod as long as it doesn't touch politics. Reading the posts of some users on the other hand show me that sometime people are too stupid to learn even a single bit from history.

/irony on
"maybe ISIS isn't also that bad of people once you look past all the propaganda"
/irony off



IF the people around Haven't killed anyone yet in cold how does that make you any different from them if murder people who have nothing to do with that part of there DARK history not all the people in germany in WW2 wanted to kill anyone would you really want to cut them down for something they had no control over. yes i agree fascism is bad but what gives you the right to cut them down when you yourself just might die in the process it's a entire planet you don't even have to look at each other

DARK3063

#21
Quote from: Killface on November 14, 2016, 11:02:14 AM
@orannj: Don't get me wrong. I wrote that there's nothing wrong with your mod, it's not touching politics or fascism in general, and has great artwork - which I like.
But I just can't stand stupid comments by people who obviously have no idea of history of the 20th century and talking bullshit and think it's funny.

@Razzoriel: you also start comparing deaths, that's the same argumentation Dark used to state his opinion and which I criticized. As I wrote "There is no way to "compare" crimes of this scale in order to justify or legitimate them." So maybe read my post again before repeating my words and using them against me. Thanks.
it's not my fault killface is being a asshole i have zero problem with the mod i just figure there should be a peace option and sir killface just wants to commit planetary genocide on them just for being fascist, there's already enough enemies in game as is. Witch is like saying just because Stalin killed more people then Hitler that all commies need to die his point is redecluse and at the most makes you no different then the pray you are hunting i just put down my first reply as a idea for a option it's a entire planet you literally never have to look at each other even once.

I prefer to work together with people around me as long as they are willing to act civilized if the fascists aren't doing anything wrong on the planet why not try to be a bit neighbourly towards them a little kindness can go a long way and the Christmas cease fire is nothing but proof of that

Ramsis

I'm getting incredibly tired of seeing hate getting slung around and it's going to lead to bans really soon to multiple people. Consider this the final warning because I won't be posting another threat, you'll just be gone for a while. Act civilized or stop posting, two easy options here.
Ugh... I have SO MANY MESSES TO CLEAN UP. Oh also I slap people around who work on mods <3

"Back off man, I'm a scientist."
- Egon Stetmann


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DARK3063

Quote from: Ramsis on November 15, 2016, 04:42:20 PM
I'm getting incredibly tired of seeing hate getting slung around and it's going to lead to bans really soon to multiple people. Consider this the final warning because I won't be posting another threat, you'll just be gone for a while. Act civilized or stop posting, two easy options here.
ok admin ill stop but don't know if he's not going blow things out of proportion again

jmababa

Quote from: Ramsis on November 15, 2016, 04:42:20 PM
I'm getting incredibly tired of seeing hate getting slung around and it's going to lead to bans really soon to multiple people. Consider this the final warning because I won't be posting another threat, you'll just be gone for a while. Act civilized or stop posting, two easy options here.

Ban them hate seing people like that in forums

DARK3063

Quote from: jmababa on November 15, 2016, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: Ramsis on November 15, 2016, 04:42:20 PM
I'm getting incredibly tired of seeing hate getting slung around and it's going to lead to bans really soon to multiple people. Consider this the final warning because I won't be posting another threat, you'll just be gone for a while. Act civilized or stop posting, two easy options here.
that wasn't problem I originally posted why not have option have them as a ally or neutral faction and he blew things out of proportion
Ban them hate seing people like that in forums

DARK3063

Quote from: Killface on November 16, 2016, 04:24:40 AM
Quote from: DARK3063 on November 15, 2016, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Ramsis on November 15, 2016, 04:42:20 PM
I'm getting incredibly tired of seeing hate getting slung around and it's going to lead to bans really soon to multiple people. Consider this the final warning because I won't be posting another threat, you'll just be gone for a while. Act civilized or stop posting, two easy options here.
ok admin ill stop but don't know if he's not going blow things out of proportion again
read my posts again and stop making false accusations. you were the one who went out of proportions by calling me "asshole" in the first place.
just leave me alone if you want to get banned thats your choice but you know your comment blew things out of proportion =.=

orannj


Tgr

Am I the only one noticing these weapons seem ... incredibly powerful?

I'm having people with these weapons one-shotting Glittertech commandos.

joaonunes

Quote from: TREH on December 21, 2016, 06:18:21 PM
Am I the only one noticing these weapons seem ... incredibly powerful?

I'm having people with these weapons one-shotting Glittertech commandos.

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