[1.5] Rah's Bionics and Surgery Expansion - v3.3 (April 11th, 2024)

[Rah]

That's a weird issue. RBSE is pretty compatible with most mods. Please list the mods you have installed and I'll take a loook.

[PreDiabetic]

That's a weird issue. RBSE is pretty compatible with most mods. Please list the mods you have installed and I'll take a loook.

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129 mods found (including RimWorlds Core folder)

[Rah]

Wow, that's quite the list. I think you're probably gonna have to go through some possible suspects, disable them one by one and see if you can find the culprit. Look for mods that might be interfering with surgeries and/or added parts.

[Canute]

Hi Rah,
2 things.
- I could install an adv. bionic arm i bought, but i couldn't install a regular bionic arm before i researched bionics.

- The splitting into 2 research tabs is not the right thing, since Neuroscience need a requirement from Prostetic.
I think these 2 research tabs should be merged together.

[Rah]

I'm pretty happy with how it is now actually. Neuroscience is just a further study of advanced circuitry etc. and it allows you to perform complicated brain chip installations, so I think it makes sense to have it there.

with regards to the advanced bionic arm: I couldn't replicate that problem. Are you sure you were able to install it without research?

[Canute]

Yep, the arm is installed and i don't researched it yet.

Maybe a conflict, but i don't use any other medical mod.

Edit:
Forget it, for some stupid reason i activated EPoE too.

[Kori]

Would someone be so nice and give me a short overview what the main differences between RBSE and EPOE are, because both seem to be very good mods and I cannot decide which one to use. 

[Harry_Dicks]

Would someone be so nice and give me a short overview what the main differences between RBSE and EPOE are, because both seem to be very good mods and I cannot decide which one to use. 

That's what the entire OP is about. He is comparing his mod to EPOE, that's why it says things like, "2 workbenches only", as compared to maybe the 4 you get from EPOE. I personally love Rah's Bionics. I am not knocking on EPOE or anything, but I think the way Rah did it, it is much more vanilla friendly, and things aren't as crazy overpowered. Of course, you can always edit values yourself in the xml if you want, but I like it when I feel like the mod author actually cares about the balance of their mod, which I think Rah has done a superb job.

[DJMurtz]

Just wanted to check: there are no compatibility patches for the Star Wars mod races on Steam, right? (Twi'lek and Zabrak)

[Kongor]

hi rah,
wanted to say thanks a ton for an incredible mod, as well as ask whether the compatibility patches are available anywhere outside the steam workshop?  i'd like to try some of the alien races, but i can't bear to lose rbse in exchange, and i hate dealing with steam for mod management.
cheers,
k

[Rah]

@Harry_Dicks, appreciate that. Glad you like it !

@DJMurtz, I haven't looked into all the alien races lately, but I know there are a ton. I suggest contacting the race owner and see if he's willing to make a patch, if a patch is needed. In B18, I believe at least some of the races should work without a patch, but don't quote me on that.

@Kongor, hi kongor. You won't lose rbse if you try out alien races. If you're nervous about it, just save a game before you install one, and you're good to go. -- Like I mentioned above, there are so many alien races at this point, so it's hard to keep track of them all. Try looking for links in their mod threads, or you can extract the patch from the steam workshop manually. All downloaded mods are in the steamapps/workshop/content folder.

[Kongor]

hi rah,
thanks for getting back to me.  i'm admittedly not too clear on why a compatibility patch is needed for most(?) races, but i installed orassans about a week ago and i noticed the game gave me a pile of errors on startup, so i decided to hold out until i could grab the relevant patch.  didn't realize manual extraction was an option, so that's one headache gone.  just to clarify then, is it that rbse+[arbitrary unpatched race] will still run, but i won't have access to your bionics with that race?
cheers,
k

[VeeCee]

I really don't play around with alien races much anymore, but patching them to use bionics is pretty easy. If they've got all the same bits as humans, it's even easier. Supposedly, alien races should be able to use added bionics for RBSE or EPoE without patches, but if you find that your favorite race won't, then here's a template for RBSE that I've used for a few races:

Make a new mod folder, set up an about folder with all the relevant crap, and set up a patches folder. Inside make a file called whatever you want, I usually go with AlienRace_RACENAME.xml. Next, paste this into the file, changing RACENAME to whatever the alien race is defined as. (Original mod, look at the defs/AlienRace folder or similar).

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Patch>
   <Operation Class="PatchOperationAdd">
      <xpath>Defs/AlienRace.ThingDef_AlienRace[defName = "RACENAME"]/recipes</xpath>
      <value>
      <li>InstallWoodenFoot</li>
      <li>InstallSimpleProstheticHand</li>
      <li>InstallSimpleProstheticFoot</li>
      <li>InstallArtificialNose</li>
      <li>InstallArtificialPelvis</li>
      <li>InstallNeurostimulator</li>
      <li>InstallSyntheticLung</li>
      <li>InstallSyntheticStomach</li>
      <li>InstallSyntheticLiver</li>
      <li>InstallSyntheticKidney</li>
      <li>InstallSyntheticHeart</li>
      <li>InstallNaturalArm</li>
      <li>InstallNaturalLeg</li>
      <li>InstallNaturalStomach</li>
      <li>InstallPowerArm</li>
      <li>InstallBionicHand</li>
      <li>InstallBionicFoot</li>
      <li>InstallBionicEar</li>
      <li>InstallBionicJaw</li>
      <li>InstallBionicSpine</li>
      <li>RepairClavicle</li>
      <li>RepairSternum</li>
      <li>RepairFirstRib</li>
      <li>RepairSecondRib</li>
      <li>RepairThirdRib</li>
      <li>RepairFourthRib</li>
      <li>RepairFifthRib</li>
      <li>RepairSixthRib</li>
      <li>RepairSeventhRib</li>
      <li>RepairEighthRib</li>
      <li>RepairNinthRib</li>
      <li>RepairTenthRib</li>
      <li>RepairEleventhRib</li>
      <li>RepairTwelfthRib</li>
      <li>InstallAdvancedPowerArm</li>
      <li>InstallAdvancedBionicArm</li>
      <li>InstallAdvancedBionicLeg</li>
      <li>InstallAdvancedBionicHand</li>
      <li>InstallAdvancedBionicFoot</li>
     <li>InstallAdvancedBionicEye</li>
     <li>InstallAdvancedBionicEar</li>
      <li>InstallAdvancedBionicSpine</li>
      <li>InstallExoskeletonSuit</li>
      <li>CureInjuryBurn</li>
      <li>CureInjuryCrack</li>
      <li>CureInjuryCut</li>
      <li>CureInjurySurgicalCut</li>
      <li>CureInjuryScratch</li>
      <li>CureInjuryBite</li>
      <li>CureInjuryStab</li>
      <li>CureInjuryGunshot</li>
      <li>CureInjuryShredded</li>
      <li>CureInjuryBruise</li>
      <li>CureInjuryFrostbite</li>
      </value>
   </Operation>
</Patch>

This should work for races built with the B18 Humanoid Alien Race framework. I've used it for Androids, Orassans, and one other race I'm forgetting right now. If you'd rather tweak an existing patch mod rather than make your own, I've got patches on steam and mediafire for Androids. So you can dig up my post and download that, then modify it for whatever race you're trying to kit out with bionics.

Good luck, and have fun!

[Kongor]

[snip]

awesome, thanks a ton!

[Harry_Dicks]

Rah something I might suggest, hope you don't mind - in vanilla, from what I've read at least, it is that any sight >100% will not matter. I'm using the mod Dodging Rebalanced which addresses this. Do you think that is something you would like to include in RBSE? I will admit that I did not originally know that >100% sight did not matter, but this made me feel like I have wasted investments in bionic eyes. I understand they are good if you have a pawn that loses an eye, but if you are at late game and going for cyborg pawns with upgrades, I think the player should at least know if the bionics they invest in will make a difference or not.