Where's Ultimate Overhaul Modpack?

[Ninefinger]

The project you currently know as The Ultimate Overhaul Modpack is now private so that I can continue to work on it unhindered.

It has gotten to the point for me that I do not want to check my own thread or PM's for what comments that might be waiting, and fear of what content might be at risk next.

Only myself and my sponsors will have access to my project and its updates until RimWorld and my project has reached final release. I will be rebuilding the project from the ground up. Once the Modpack is a final release along with RimWorld someone will release it to the public.

I am going to lay it on you strait, too many people do not understand that issues come from people that have an issue and create an issue otherwise there would be no issue, either with me or the modpack, you probably already know how I feel about such people. To put it lightly any modder that does not wish to have their content included in the pack and wants to whine and snivel like a baby will be regarded as such and as someone who does not have the goodwill to allow the community to enjoy their content the way everyone wants it to be enjoyed.

You will be forced into submission of goodwill and you will consider yourselves to be privileged to have your content included in such a masterpiece!

The only response to this that you are allowed is Sir, Yes Sir!

Do I make myself clear?

It is a rhetorical question to which the only answer is Yes Sir!

I do not care for negative responses and they will be ignored as your opinion does not matter to me if you do not share my vision.

The public will have what they want I promise you that.

Anyone that wants to continue a public release of their own iteration of the Modpack is more than welcome to do so.

I wish you luck!

To the much deserving community of good people I love you and I am truly sorry that I can no longer publicly provide you with what should have been an unhindered project.

My decision has been made, I have my reasons and I have spoken and you will respect that and that is final!

Sincerely, Ninefinger

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[Asero]

You will be forced into submission of goodwill and you will consider yourselves to be privileged to have your content included in such a masterpiece!

The only response to this that you are allowed is Sir, Yes Sir!

Do I make myself clear?

[TLHeart]

So now nine is going into hiding, and plagiarizer all the content he has currently, then release it as his own...

[TheGentlmen]

I want to play Rimworld, but honestly I'm kinda clueless on how to without this mod. Vanilla is just too lacking in content and depth after having experienced a modpack, to go back. There's the hardcore SK pack, but I had a number of deal breaker issues with it.

Which just leaves the last option of having dozens of stand-alone mods. But I can't really imagine this working well. They need to balanced towards one another, and coordinate with one another as far as progression goes, especially if they share common, modded resources. A modpack seems mandatory for a big modding scene to thrive, and if I'm wrong about that, then by all means let me know how you guys do it.

I'm afraid Nine was only paying attention to the negativity. From what I recall, there were compliments all around in that thread. It's not like it was totally unappreciated. As the saying goes, the squeaky wheel is the loudest :\

God bless TheGent though, because he's planning to keep UOP going. He's going to spend an estimated two months getting permissions for what he can and working around mods he can't get permissions for. You can hold on to your outdated version until then.

Because Tynan's taking a sabbatical break, the time when TheGent releases a functional modpack would theoretically line up with the next updates to rimworld.

I actually got a really good amount of permissions already, I'M suprized about how quick it was, I don't have all of them, but just enough.
With that, the ETA is still roughthly 1 to 2 months. I've got 16 mods running now (17 if ya include CCL), but I plan to finish 'Reasearch Tree' (Mah new mod) before I release. I plan for it to make the research, not a tree but instead a web so that you can get X by going from Y or Q -> Z.
Something like in the latest Civ game (Named something like byond the horizon or simular.)

Edit: The reason I'm not using SC is because basically every modpack since its release has done dat, I want something new and fresh... and sadly SC2 hasn't came out.

[1000101]

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Since you are standing on the shoulders of those who actually created the content, you are the one who needs to be more humble.  Without everybody else's hard work you would have nothing.

Since you are taking such an offensive tone, I hereby revoke all rights, privileges and permission to allow my work to be included in your modpack.  You are hereby required to remove anything which has my name attached to it from your modpack including but not limited to E's Small Mods and any code sections which I wrote as part of the Community Core Library.

Thank-you and good-day.

[TheGentlmen]

The only response to this that you are allowed is Sir, Yes Sir!

It is a rhetorical question to which the only answer is Yes Sir!

YOU FORGOT THE SIR, SIR, YES SIR

[Ramsis]

I dare say Nine this is going to open a can of worms you really don't want.

Let's look at what's happened since you started the modpack before you go calling out anyone else or, well decide to refer to us all as "faggots" again.

1. You started the modpack and all was good.
2. People wanted you to put a link to their mod and credit them, you fought me, rage-removed your modpack, then I talked you into doing it.
3. All was good, things got done, you gave credit like any sane person, yay.
4. You and Sky get into a slap fight on the board, I boot him and eventually he stops after a ban or two.
5. Itchy requests you slide a donation link on his behalf on your site or whatever out of goodwill because you use his content, you decide to hold out for two weeks and he then requests you remove his pack, which is in his rights.
6. You freak out once again.

This, this is how you've acted so far. A man your age and you act like a spoiled brat because people want their dues for you using their work. Trust me brother I understand you want your cut of the pie, we know it's not easy getting 50+ mods to play nice with each other but at the same time your sweat and tears are going on top of others sweat and tears and as such it's not that odd for them to push to some sort of minimum.

If I recall you're Canadian, which means you know just how pissy your country can get over copyright; personal advice would be for you to pay attention and watch who tells you to take their content down because if you think your modpack won't be leaked, you'd be quite wrong.

Request for you, come into the Modding Slack and talk to us. It's the least you can do.

[TheGentlmen]

NINE, people on slack wanna discuss a peaceful solution, or atleast most of us do, plz come.

[akiceabear]

rant from NF

This is called painting yourself into a corner...

[NuclearStudent]

The project you currently know as The Ultimate Overhaul Modpack is now private so that I can continue to work on it unhindered.

It has gotten to the point for me that I do not want to check my own thread or PM's for what comments that might be waiting, and fear of what content might be at risk next.

Only myself and my sponsors will have access to my project and its updates until RimWorld and my project has reached final release. I will be rebuilding the project from the ground up. Once the Modpack is a final release along with RimWorld someone will release it to the public.

I am going to lay it on you strait, too many people do not understand that issues come from people that have an issue and create an issue otherwise there would be no issue, either with me or the modpack, you probably already know how I feel about such people. To put it lightly any modder that does not wish to have their content included in the pack and wants to whine and snivel like a baby will be regarded as such and as someone who does not have the goodwill to allow the community to enjoy their content the way everyone wants it to be enjoyed.

You will be forced into submission of goodwill and you will consider yourselves to be privileged to have your content included in such a masterpiece!

The only response to this that you are allowed is Sir, Yes Sir!

Do I make myself clear?

It is a rhetorical question to which the only answer is Yes Sir!

I do not care for negative responses and they will be ignored as your opinion does not matter to me if you do not share my vision.

The public will have what they want I promise you that.

Anyone that wants to continue a public release of their own iteration of the Modpack is more than welcome to do so.

I wish you luck!

To the much deserving community of good people I love you and I am truly sorry that I can no longer publicly provide you with what should have been an unhindered project.

My decision has been made, I have my reasons and I have spoken and you will respect that and that is final!

Sincerely, Ninefinger

For posterity, I am saving this in case it is necessary.

[NoImageAvailable]

NINE, people on slack wanna discuss a peaceful solution, or atleast most of us do, plz come.

Why? At this point we had Ramsis talk to him via PM when the thing with sky was happening, we had modders talking to him on slack when the CR stuff was happening, we had Itchy talk to him during this most recent crisis and all its ever got anyone was Ninefinger coming back with insults and more of his "fuck you all" attitude, telling everyone how he doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything but himself and his personal ego-trip.

At this point I'd say ban him from the forums, ban linking to his download mirrors and let him peddle his bootlegged modpack to the 5 or so people who would actually still download it once it vanishes from all the major discussion boards and hosters. Let him rule his little pile of dirt while the rest of the forums gets on with their lives because it is not worth all this effort just to keep such a toxic member in the community.

[Alistaire]

The project you currently know as The Ultimate Overhaul Modpack is now private so that I can continue to work on it unhindered.

-SNIP : Blablabla I'm redistributing the pack only for people who pay me-

Sincerely, Ninefinger

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Alright okay okay alright I see yea okay yea alright.

[Fluffy (l2032)]

Angry rant.

Since you will be publishing my materials contingent on donation, which is explicitly forbidden by my license, and as Alistair pointed out, the RimWorld license, the permissions for all my mods are hereby null and void.

Please remove any and all of my content from all of your releases.

[Coenmcj]

Oh the Audacity...

Throwing more temper tantrums is just self destructive behaviour Nine, and the complete disregard for Intellectual property and the rules that surround them?
Now that, is just a good way to distance yourself from the "much deserving community of good people" that you so cherish.

I originally hoped you would return and treat this whole situation like an adult, but now it seems like this is all for nought.
A shame indeed.

[Asero]

If I recall you're Canadian, which means you know just how pissy your country can get over copyright; personal advice would be for you to pay attention and watch who tells you to take their content down because if you think your modpack won't be leaked, you'd be quite wrong.

Not trying to condone that Nine is planning to release the modpack against the wishes of the mod authors somewhere else. I think it's really crappy. Were a modding community after all.

But unfortunately there isn't much anyone can legally do to stop him if he does, unless someone can prove he is benefiting financially from it's distribution. Remember, a license only ever gives the recipient of the creative work additional rights, it never takes away rights. Every single 'license' that makes a demand of players is against the EULA -- unless I missed something / or it gets amended.